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Get ready for a fun episode! Listen to see if Jason and Jacob disagree about the new jerseys. Who had the more iconic interception, Derrick Barnes or Ifeatu Melifonwu? Who is the bigger Detroit icon, Barry Sanders or Eminem?
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Episode 6: Eminem vs Barry? Iffy vs Barnes? Jersey Talk!
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Jason Harwood: , everybody, welcome back to Talking Grit. I'm Jason Harwood, and with me is Jacob Litton. This is an episode that I'm excited because Jacob is about to get crushed on some arguments.
Before we started this show, he's already talking crap. So, I can't wait [00:01:00] to win all these arguments. So, what do you think about that, Jacob? Are you ready to lose?
Jacob Litton: I already know you're going to be wrong.
Every, debate that we have, I feel like there's a right answer. don't agree, then you're just, you're flat out wrong.
Jason Harwood: okay. All right, you just keep talking.
Jacob Litton: we'll let the listeners decide.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, we will let them, and you can, get to us on our Facebook page. You can, you know, send condolences for Jacob and how bad he got beaten. I will get the Kleenex ready for him, for, clap his tears, pick up his pride.
Jacob Litton: I love that this is recorded, cause then you just get to eat those words. Forever.
Jason Harwood: , I know, that's going to be great. We're going to keep receipts and this is the way it's going to go. It's kind of nice because usually at work we're not recording, right? So you could pretend to say whatever you said and even though you're wrong, now, we get to record it, put it down, and I might make it a ringtone on my phone.
Like, you know, just of how your bad [00:02:00] takes and how wrong you are.
Jacob Litton: At work, you can't even get the bat off your shoulder half the time.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, well,
Jacob Litton: the other day? You were pausing for dramatic effect?
Jason Harwood: yeah
Jacob Litton: You're boring everybody
Jason Harwood: So first topic that we're going to talk about today is we're going to talk, about the new lines jerseys. We're going to pick our favorites.
So Jacob, you want to go through, the new Jersey styles?
Jacob Litton: Basically, I think they did a perfect job of not changing too much, but just making everything better. , the home Jersey, obviously, it's the blue, they've added the clean white numbers are back. It's not gray anymore. the blue though, is like an enhanced version of the Honolulu blue. It's awesome looking. Really perfect. Then you flip it, away, white jersey, they have the white or the blue pants option. It's that same really clean, awesome white, blue color. One thing I wanted to say though that I noticed is that they finally put Detroit on the chest. You know, it's always said Lyons before and they finally put the city on there. Was that a big [00:03:00] deal for you or what did you think about that?
Jason Harwood: Yeah, I think it was a nice touch that they put that on there. Something to change it up a little bit. I don't know how much you're going to change your white jerseys up. Ones are the way ones. They're called , the 313. So it's probably pretty appropriate that they put Detroit, uh, across the chest.
So I like that.
Jacob Litton: rep the city, man.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, for sure.
Jacob Litton: I like the traditional numbers too.
Jason Harwood: Yeah.
Jacob Litton: Like, you know, they're more of like the block, we had kind of like the, I don't know if you want to call it futuristic style or whatever before. I like these numbers better.
Jason Harwood: They're a lot more contrast, so you can actually see them a lot better. It was, uh, especially hard at, uh, tell between, Josh Reynolds, who's no longer on the team and Jamison Williams, eight, nine. It was really hard, like just looking at the Jersey number to tell the, tell the difference there.
I'm really happy that they put the bigger block letters with the bigger contrast.
Jacob Litton: Even like, uh, right now with there and OTAs and everything, even just during practice, when they were in [00:04:00] the practice style, just that blue with the white, just Looks great.
Jason Harwood: Yep. Uh, obviously
Jacob Litton: the big one though, uh, is bringing the black Jersey back. that Dan Campbell wanted. I mean, the players love it.
The fans love it. , the fact that they brought it back is awesome. They got it with that blue as well. Throwing a little surprise there, now we have another alternate helmet. Think I like this one better than the one from last year with the old lion's logo. I know you really like that one because you're ancient and it reminds you of your childhood. Um, what did you think about the new one now?
Jason Harwood: Uh, the new, the new black style. I'm out.
Jacob Litton: new alternate helmet, yeah, black lion on there.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, I love the new helmet, especially with the whole jersey. Well, last year when they debuted the one with the old logo. Yes, I love that. I like that. That blue at that time. I mean, it was kind of weird cause it didn't look like the blue on the home jerseys.
So you're kind of wondering is like, is that what they're going [00:05:00] to go for in the next version? Basically, , it's the same helmet. There's just new stickers on it. But the black lion just pops with, the black Jersey and the blue, helmet. It's really sweet.
The whole thing looks really, really good.
Jacob Litton: I like that they call it the Motor City Muscle also.
Jason Harwood: Yeah. They're leaning into that. , when they debuted it at the stadium they brought it out like with this, what?
Jacob Litton: Let's hear about how you were there.
Jason Harwood: Yeah. Well, I mean, do you want me to just lie about my experience? Like I learned about it on fanatics, like everyone else, like. Four hours before it, got debuted.
No, they brought out a sweet muscle car. It was awesome that just the whole show was great. But, and as soon as the black jerseys debuted, people walked out of the stands and be the first to get their hands on it. It was,
it was pretty sweet.
Jacob Litton: Oh yeah, I ordered
Jason Harwood: Yeah, they were sold out before we, um, my family even got back to the lion shop in the stadium. It was a quick sale and while we were [00:06:00] in there, They wheeled in some more that I don't know where they got them from. And it was like the walking dead. People were like, Oh, like walking towards it.
, it was just really funny. Like everyone's attention turned to the jerseys and they were walking towards it. They looked even better in person than what they did. In the videos, I, they were just awesome. And, with the blue pants, they look. They look even better, I think.
Jacob Litton: right. So clean looking.
Jason Harwood: Yeah. Well,
Jacob Litton: know we talked about leading up what we were expecting or what we hope for, for the uniforms. Do you remember my main, my only wish was like, I want one thing with a uniform. What was that
Jason Harwood: I, it didn't even start there, dude. It started before that. It was like last year when, before the, the helmet, the new helmet was released. You were like, I want the blue face mask. That's what you said. So that was like a year ago that you were asking for it.
Jacob Litton: I'm all about the blue face mask, man. It just looks awesome.
Jason Harwood: [00:07:00] Well,
Jacob Litton: with the new blue. Right.
Jason Harwood: while we were there, my oldest, Preston bought, , a Jameer Gibbs, the new jersey. They were sold out of the black one, so he got the blue. And so he, when we got home, he laid the new jersey Out against, a Hutch, um, blue Jersey. So the old one, so he put them next together and man, that blue they're both Honolulu blue, right.
The new one just pops. It is, it's sweet.
Jacob Litton: I didn't think you could make the Honolulu blue better, but they did. It's awesome.
Jason Harwood: Yeah. And just with the white block lettering or numbering It makes it even pop even better. So, yeah, super, super excited about the New Jerseys. It's gonna be, you know, with my season tickets, when I'm sitting there, Jacob, in the stadium, When I'm at the home games, you know, I'm going to be able to see the numbers.
You know, it'd be awesome. When I'm texting you from the stadium saying, um, they scored a touchdown, like, you know, 15, 20 [00:08:00] seconds before you see it on your delayed, uh, TV. Um, it's going to be, it'll be sweet. So I'll know the numbers right away.
Jacob Litton: just doing that because he couldn't remember that I'm watching on TV, but then I found out that he's doing it just to, he thought it was messing with me, but I prefer to, uh, ruin the suspense.
Jason Harwood: Well, the first time I did it, I did it. Did go, Oh, that crap, I probably ruined something for you. But then after that, you're like, I don't care. I, that's awesome. I get to know beforehand. So,
Jacob Litton: Right? Unless it's bad news. If it's bad news, I don't want to just let me find out on TV.
Jason Harwood: now, if it's bad news, I'm, you know, I'm sulking for a little bit before I talk to anybody.
Jacob Litton: No, the jerseys though were exactly what I wanted.
It was like, I didn't want them to be too different, but they're just different enough that everything is better. I I think they're perfect.
Jason Harwood: yeah, I,
Jacob Litton: talked about it a little bit. Um, sorry, go ahead.
Jason Harwood: I was just going to say that they did, they didn't like try to reinvent the wheel. They just heightened everything up and just made it better. Went back to a few things, it [00:09:00] looks really like the 90s kind of jerseys, but just, more modern. But they didn't make it so modern that it looks like arena football or whatever.
I, I think it looks awesome.
Jacob Litton: As far as the black jerseys go, how many games do you think we're going to wear those this year?
Jason Harwood: When we went to the draft , we, , met Amin Ra, my youngest asked him, ask Amin Ra what his favorite jersey was.
, he. Told them the black one. So, you know, if the players have their vote, they're going to probably do them on the primetime games, I would say, um,
Jacob Litton: That's what I was
Jason Harwood: three games, I would say three games
Jacob Litton: Seattle, right? That's like the first
Jason Harwood: that, yeah, like, I don't think they'll do it week one, um, with the Rams. But I do think.
If I were betting Seattle is when I would say they'd be, that's when they're going to debut,
Jacob Litton: Agreed.
Jason Harwood: , Monday night football, , it's going to be, it's going to be live in there too, man. That's going to be, they were in those jerseys. I mean, those helmets just [00:10:00] like, it's like a perfect with that black jersey.
I, the whole thing just looks awesome. So what do you think they're going to wear week one?
Jacob Litton: I mean, you gotta go with the new We're at home. We've got all new uniforms. You gotta go with the blue.
Jason Harwood: Right. But what pants are you going to wear with them? They're gonna go blueberries, gonna do the blue and blue. They seem, they have an awesome record with blue and blue.
Jacob Litton: I would want it to be all blue.
Jason Harwood: Yeah.
Jacob Litton: Almost like a color rush. The blue on blue.
Jason Harwood: I bet that they're going to wear all blue. That's what I think they'll do. I don't know if they're still going to call them the blueberries, like last year with the old Jersey, that's what they call them.
That's what I'm betting they're going to debut with that. So I'm going to say your, your favorite is the black Jersey then. Correct.
Jacob Litton: I mean, I, I love them all.
Jason Harwood: Yeah.
Jacob Litton: hard to say that for sure. I'm just happy the blue face mask is back.
It's a toss up between me, the black ones, and the home blue. The white, I do like. I don't think it's that I don't like it. It's just, it's a white jersey. So, it just, there's always [00:11:00] so much,
Jacob Litton: you can
Jason Harwood: yeah, exactly. So, it's hard to say,
Jacob Litton: blue pants. I mean, it still looks really good.
Jason Harwood: no, it looks, those blue pants, that, that new blue is just all around, even on, you know, jersey, but the, the pants, they, it just all looks really good.
We'll get to see them in the preseason game. So that'll be great.
Jacob Litton: Right.
Jason Harwood: So, all right, man. So the next topic that we're going to talk about here, um, is, um, something we brought up on a previous podcast. We really wanted to delve into this a little deeper. We are going to talk about, , the Derek Barnes verse iffy interception, do you want to use the word iconic or what, what word do you want to.
How do you, what word do you want to describe it?
Jacob Litton: I guess we could say iconic.
Jason Harwood: Okay.
Jacob Litton: I don't know how else you would, we'll go into it more in a minute, but
Jason Harwood: Yeah.
Jacob Litton: that's a debate is which one is more iconic. I don't know if you want to say more memorable.
Jason Harwood: We'll just, say iconic for, lack of better words. I'm gonna let you start here first, you get, you're gonna pick if it's, Derek Barnes, Ify, [00:12:00] and then depending on our feelings here, we'll argue back and forth or what, so I'm gonna let you start.
Jacob Litton: Yeah. Now do you want me just to say what my pick is or do you want me to go through? The situational periods for each one before I make my answer.
Jason Harwood: Let's just pick and then just kind of go into it. I think that'd be the best.
Jacob Litton: Okay So I mean of the two I told you that there's only one right answer and it's got to be the Derek Barnes interception
Jason Harwood: Um, go ahead.
Now I guess I'll let everyone relive what was going on with that game We're playing the Buccaneers. We're at home. Two score lead Towards the end of the game Buccaneers drive down You know exposing our secondary at the time. They score, we get the ball back. We don't do enough Can't keep it going. We have to give it back to them Buccaneers get the ball back two minutes left 90 yards to go Baker makes a bad read, he's trying to hit his tight end, Derrick Barnes, dropped back in his own, [00:13:00] jumps it and makes a great catch, and then Ford Field explodes cause we basically just clinched a spot in the NFC Championship game. I don't know how you get any bigger than that. That's why I'm picking Barnes, I'll let you say what you think and then we can talk more about it.
Jason Harwood: Well, I'll say what I think, but I'll say what I know. Um, that you're wrong. Uh, it is definitely the iffy interception.
Jacob Litton: because there's just no way.
Jason Harwood: This is gonna be so sweet that this is recorded and I get to play this whenever I want. Uh, so, Ify's Interception, week 16, , they're in Minnesota, playing for the title at the time.
There's 49 seconds left. The Vikings drove all the way down to the lines, 35 yard line. It's 1st and 10. The score is 30 to 24. That's important to think about. It was 30 to 24. Uh, if, if, the Vikings score here, then, then they are going to take the lead and it's not, we're [00:14:00] not going to win, um, the division that day, most likely.
So, If he comes up, jumps.
Jacob Litton: on your own argument right now, but
Jason Harwood: No, nope, I'm not, man. So, if he jumps up, makes, a really good play on the ball, and he, you know, dives to the ground, Lions win the division for the first time in 30 years. Over 30 years. So, you're gonna tell me that, You know, we had just won a playoff game the week before the Barnes interception.
So you're going to tell me that the Iffy, after 30 years of not winning division, that the Barnes one is more iconic?
Jacob Litton: Are you done? Was that it?
Jason Harwood: not done. I'm letting you respond, and then I'm going to come back. That's how debates work.
I talk, and then you talk, and then Say some wrong stuff, and then I talk, say some right stuff, and then you talk, and say some wrong stuff. That's how these debates work.
Jacob Litton: Gotcha, gotcha. Okay, so basically, what I will give you is that If he made a [00:15:00] better play on that ball, hung back. He kind of baited Nick Mullins. He knew he was ironing Justin Jefferson the whole time hangs back, beats him into it. Makes a great jump on the ball. Picks it off like at the five yard line. play. Great for iffy. Still not better than what Derrick Barnes did.
Jason Harwood: Okay.
Jacob Litton: your main point though is that we clinched the division because of that interception. Which is correct, but at the same time we still had a couple games left We still could have clinched the division after that as you said yourself in the middle of your argument know, it wasn't uh, it wasn't a game wasn't a season ending play It wasn't a win or go home when we played the Buccaneers.
Obviously, that's in the playoffs There's a lot riding on that one. We just gave up a huge drive They just drove down and scored on us and then they get the ball back. They have two minutes to drive down it's just a huge interception right there. [00:16:00] It's not as good of a play as Iffy, but then Derek Barnes, he drops back in zone, he jumps the route, picks it off, Field, like I said, Ford Field goes off, they explode, and, I mean, that interception clinched that game and clinched a spot in the NFC Championship, we hadn't been to in, what, 32, 33 years?
Even longer than the division?
Jason Harwood: I I I'll give you that. What was the score in the Buccaneers, , game, though, when when you got that?
Jacob Litton: we were up by eight because they had went for a two point and missed it,
Jason Harwood: Right, so
Jacob Litton: before.
Jason Harwood: so, I guess for me, they even if they scored, at best, they could tie it up, right?
Jacob Litton: Right,
Jason Harwood: Right, so that doesn't necessarily I mean, to me, it's like, okay, they could tie it up in the lions, either get the ball back if there's any time on the clock, or it's going to go to overtime, we could still win. So I, that's why I think the iffy, iffy one is more important.
There was less time on the clock, they were on the lions. [00:17:00] side of the field at the 35 yard line. Whereas the Barnes one, they were on the Buccaneers 15 yard line. So they had to go the whole length of the field.
Jacob Litton: which they just did a minute before as well though.
Jason Harwood: I, I, I give you that, but also once you think of the Vikings, Nick Mullins, they were, I mean, Nick Mullins had like over 400 yards in that game and he was just driving and they went, it was after they got the fourth and 20 or whatever.
You know, Kaminsky doesn't pick up the ball. They threw it up.
Jacob Litton: yep.
Jason Harwood: So, and then. Here's, here's what I'll give you even more of why I think the FE1 is, you know, maybe it's instead of iconic, more important. That's what, maybe that's what I'm, I'm going after is like the more important interception of the year.
Jacob Litton: So you hear that guys, Jason was wrong, so he had to
Jason Harwood: No, that's what I'm thinking in my head that I still think it's an iconic interception. It's even sweeter that he just jumped Justin Jefferson to get that. Justin Jefferson is a good wide receiver. He could have came back to that ball, [00:18:00] but he kind of just sat there and let the ball come to him.
Jacob Litton: he was trying to run a post, he's trying to get in the end
Jason Harwood: I know, I know he's trying to get that.
Jacob Litton: a bad throw.
Jason Harwood: Well, it's,
Jacob Litton: play by Ify, I'm not taking anything
Jason Harwood: yeah.
Jacob Litton: said, that was a better, if you're talking about which interception was a better play, he made a better break on the ball, he baited him.
That was a better interception.
Not more iconic.
Jason Harwood: I honestly think that Derek Barnes won. I think he makes, uh, better play than, like,
Jacob Litton: so you're wrong twice.
Jason Harwood: no, I'm not. I, you're arguing that Ify's interception was Was a better play. I think Derek Barnes did the same thing and he had, he knew the read and jumped back.
And that, that was a good interception, especially for a linebacker to the way he intercepted that. Anyways, I'm going to get back to my, the why I think the iffy one was More important and more iconic. , let's just say that play doesn't happen, okay, if he doesn't intercept it. That Justin Jefferson's complete, they score a touchdown, the Vikings win.[00:19:00]
The next week, they go to Dallas. Let's just assume everything played out the same there, you know, with the, uh, Call by Brad Allen, you know how the pressure on the Lions going into week 18 It's from like, We could have won the division last week too now we might not even make the playoffs because that would have been a possibility and The Vikings could have won the division with that last game, so that last game comes even more pressure packed.
Jacob Litton: Well, the Vikings got steamrolled by the Packers right after that.
Jason Harwood: yeah, okay, well, you got me there, so I will give you that. But I'm just saying, the pressure was mounting on that. So, I think that them winning that game just took a lot of pressure off them. All right, I still think the Ify one is the most iconic. He, they won the division on that.
Jacob Litton: you get bigger than the playoffs.
Jason Harwood: Yeah.
Jacob Litton: in the NFC championship game. I want people to vote now.
Jason Harwood: , I agree with you. They're, the playoffs are very [00:20:00] important, but I just, You know, they won the division with that. They hadn't done that in such a long time.
You even said that it was the greater interception. So I win you lose.
Jacob Litton: you is that I thought it was a better play. And then you still were like, well, no, it wasn't.
Jason Harwood: Well, I, I think Derek Barnes is interception itself. Like the actual, like interception. I'm just more impressed that he's a linebacker and made that play. That was a pretty good, pretty good catch.
Jacob Litton: he, he came down, the tight end came up behind him, over him, and he's supposed to be in zone. So he drops back in zone, and he knows where the tight end's going, he's just gotta get there, too. It really was a bad throw by Baker Mayfield, too.
Jason Harwood: Yeah. Well,
Jacob Litton: that, I mean, he, he, he blew it. He didn't have to throw it there.
Jason Harwood: now he was rushing. I mean, that's, you know, Baker was rushing on that.
Jacob Litton: on.
Jason Harwood: Yeah,
Jacob Litton: Field loud.
Jason Harwood: so, you know, I'm glad we disagreed on that because that gave us a little chance to debate You know, I'm hasn't changed my mind, but I still think I'm right, but
Jacob Litton: [00:21:00] Okay.
Jason Harwood: they got to the end of the championship I'm not I'm happy that they both interceptions happened I could tell you that I almost threw up before it I'm literally telling you I almost threw up before if he's interception because I was So nervous during that game and I fell to the floor after he kicked me After he intercepted it, because after I yelled at the screen to get down, get down, I, I fell to the floor, because I was just so relieved that the game was over, because I was stressed out.
Jacob Litton: Right? almost had to use your life alert.
Jason Harwood: That's right, I've fallen and I can't get up. We're going to
Jacob Litton: gonna agree to
Jason Harwood: agree to disagree, but I still think, so you, do you think at five years, 10, I'll say five or 10 years, do you think people will remember the Barnes interception war or the Iffy interception war?
Jacob Litton: I think that Barnes, I think that the playoff win, the spot in the, you know, it's funny though, because [00:22:00] let's say this year goes really well and we make it to the Super Bowl. you don't hang quite as much on the playoff wins from before because, you know, they keep rolling, they keep coming. But, I mean, knock on wood, let's say we don't make the playoffs or we, you know, make it to the wild card, we don't make it through or whatever.
That makes, you know, the win when we went to the championship even more important. You
Jason Harwood: But I would also say that if the Vikings win. Say if he doesn't make that, the Vikings win, the Vikings win that game, maybe the next week it plays out different for them because they know that they still got a chance for the division, whereas, after they lost and they knew they were out of the division, they were still playing for the playoffs, granted, so I'll give you that, but, you know, they weren't no longer,
Jacob Litton: do so much with Mullins at quarterback anyway.
Jason Harwood: well, they didn't even start Mullens that next week because after he threw four interceptions, they started that other rookie and then, and then he played so bad, yeah, yeah.
Jacob Litton: game against us.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, they, that other guy played so bad, I can't remember his [00:23:00] name, he played so bad, they put Nick Mullins back in, so,
Jacob Litton: They got J. J.
McCarthy now.
Jason Harwood: It's a good thing they got JJ, because they, Sam Darnold's gonna be probably very similar to what they already, they already had going, maybe they could trade for Kirk Cousins, you know, he's, heh
Jacob Litton: Right,
Jason Harwood: heh,
Jacob Litton: he would be a good fit.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, exactly.
Justin Jefferson. I think they'd have a good, you know, connection.
Jacob Litton: He would just look good in purple, right?
Jason Harwood: Ha, yeah, Kirk Cousins. He, yeah, with that drip? Oh, for sure, man. Did I use the correct term? Drip? Right?
Jacob Litton: Kind of.
Jason Harwood: Right? No, man. There's a
Jacob Litton: with you saying it, but
Jason Harwood: With that drip? So, yes. Is that, is that the way it sounded? Did it come off like that?
Jacob Litton: Just quit trying.
Jason Harwood: Alright, we're gonna agree to disagree, we'll let our listeners decide who won the argument, um, and, and then I will keep receipts, um, how many times people say I won, but I will tell you that my own son thinks [00:24:00] that Barnes was the better one because of your exact argument about the playoffs.
Jacob Litton: well, yeah. Soon you'll find that's what most people think, but
Jason Harwood: And that's okay.
Jacob Litton: you, you can pretend that you're smarter and better right now.
I I wanna know the next one now if we didn't agree, cause I told you I think there's one right answer for each of these.
Jason Harwood: I know, uh, this is gonna be, yeah, this is gonna be great. Our next topic that we're going to talk about is actually something that was brought up at work before we even started the podcast was right before the draft. Um, my question to, uh, Jacob was, is Eminem going to show up at the draft and we've got kind of thought, you know, his big lions fan is, you know, a chance he's going to make it there.
Of course he did show up, but that the question was, you know, who is the more iconic Detroit figure, Eminem or Barry Sanders? And I think it's a very good question., Jacob says there's only one right answer. Honestly, I can go, I think there isn't. I think they're both just amazing individuals.
Jacob Litton:
I'll tell you why I [00:25:00] feel that way. There's, there's arguments for both sides. I don't feel as strongly about this one as I do about the interception,
Jason Harwood: Okay.
Jacob Litton: explain it after. Go
Jason Harwood: Yeah, that's fine. I'm going to say Eminem is the more iconic Detroit figure. Um, the reason why I say that is that, uh, number one, I think he's more identified with the city than Barry Sanders. I know Barry Sanders played here. He, you know, he's, he's the all time.
Jacob Litton: Barry Sanders play?
Jason Harwood: I'm sorry.
Jacob Litton: Where else did Barry Sanders play?
Jason Harwood: Well, Oklahoma State, for sure.
Jacob Litton: you know what I meant.
Jason Harwood: But no, he played
Jacob Litton: You know what I meant.
Jason Harwood: yeah, yes.
Jacob Litton: I'll wait until you're
Jason Harwood: Eminem is just Ever since he started, he's been identified with the city. He, you know, made a movie about the city. , included in the city kind of based on his life.
I, just in my experience with him being in the stadium, Ford Field gets the loudest when Eminem is On the screen or doing something
Jacob Litton: Arrowhead also gets the loudest when Taylor Swift is on the [00:26:00] screen.
Jason Harwood: yeah, I, I knew that that was going to be coming right back. Please tell me you're not comparing Eminem to Taylor Swift. Just, just please,
Jacob Litton: that regard,
Jason Harwood: cause,
Jacob Litton: comparison ends there.
Jason Harwood: I don't need to get into any Taylor Swift stuff, but, uh, no, that's, uh, please just don't ever do that ever again. You're hurting my feelings.
I just think Eminem, exudes Detroit. So I think he's the more iconic figure. Um, are you in agreement with me or are you, you're going to go with the Barry Sanders side?
Jacob Litton: Uh, so that's what I was saying. I didn't feel as strongly about this one because here's my thought process. For most, I would say, NFL fans that aren't really fans of the Lions, if you're just a fan of the NFL or, you know, a fan of entertainment or whatever, you're going to connect Eminem to Detroit more than Barry Sanders. But if you're a Lions fan, you have to say that Barry Sanders is more iconic in Detroit. only played in Detroit. Um put [00:27:00] us on the map without him. You know, we lose. I mean, like who's the second best running back in Detroit history?
Jason Harwood: Um, well, you probably do. I,
Jacob Litton: don't even
Jason Harwood: no,
Jacob Litton: a close second. There's nobody you would have to say Jamal Williams
Jason Harwood: no,
Jacob Litton: from way black and
Jason Harwood: say I've, we had talked about Barry, uh, Billy Simms in the first one and he would have been great had he not been injured. He was good. Um, we do have Doke Walker, which we talked about in the first podcast a long time ago. He's, and, but I mean, yeah, no one knows who those guys, yeah, yes, I got it.
You're right there.
Jacob Litton: Barry's done a lot for the city. He has been consistently, like, you know, he still shows up to the Lions games. We just got the statue of him. Uh, crowd goes crazy every time they hear Barry 2. Um, that's just what I was saying.
I think that if you're a Lions fan, then you have to say that Barry Sanders is more iconic. If you take away Barry Sanders, then we've done, you know, the nineties were [00:28:00] just like the eighties and everything. We, you know, We're terrible. We're not making playoff games. He was a game changer. I'm only speaking on most of this. I, you know, didn't get to watch him play as much. But, I mean, that's how iconic he is. I know who he is. Everybody knows who Barry Sanders is. That's just why I was saying that I think, if you're just an NFL fan, I think if you You know, if you ask our kids, they're probably gonna connect Eminem more with Detroit.
Jason Harwood: I agree. I,
Jacob Litton: still think that Barry Sanders is more iconic in Detroit, as far as Lions fans go.
If you poll diehard Lions fans, they're gonna say they like Barry Sanders more than Eminem.
Jason Harwood: I agree. I mean, this is a Detroit lions podcast. Okay. So it's like kind of sacrilegious to, you know, not pick Barry Sanders for it. I just think that outside of football and everything, Eminem, pull people like, let's say overseas, they're going to say, they would answer Eminem because they would know who Eminem is over Barry Sanders.
So.
Jacob Litton: don't really know, well, if they're not Lions fans, then a lot of people [00:29:00] don't know who Barry
Jason Harwood: Well, especially the younger generation for sure, but it's also not like Eminem. I mean, Eminem right now, you know, he's probably getting close to being 50. So you know, he's a little bit older than I am. Um, I think he's even hitting a different stage in his career, but it's, he doesn't come out as much as Barry Sanders too.
So I think that also plays into it for me. So when you see Eminem out and about, that's. Just Stranger, whereas Barry Sanders is pretty much out at every Lions game, um, which is great, and you're right, the crowd goes wild every time they see him, doesn't matter if it's every game or whatever, And Barry Sanders does have a huge statue outside of Ford Field.
Eminem does not have a huge statue outside of Ford Field, I give you that.
Jacob Litton: There's just,
so much love for Barry from the Lions fans, you have to say he's more iconic. But I agree that, you know, people that don't really, if they're not lions fans or, you know, they, of course they're going to know [00:30:00] Eminem and they're going to connect Eminem with Detroit just because of how much he mentions it.
Jason Harwood: right. Well, I mean, we're, the argument that we had was the iconic Detroit figure, so I think that fits Eminem more. Whereas, obviously with the Lions, of course Barry Sanders is going to be more iconic than Eminem in the Lions realm. Just because, you know, Eminem's not a football player.
Jacob Litton: of other interests and topics outside of football and Eminem being a entertainer and, you know, music industry. Generally, they're gonna be bigger and more popular, such as Taylor Swift. That's why I made that connection when you said that.
Jason Harwood: I know. I know. That's, again, you bring up,
Jacob Litton: fans are there now just because of her?
Jason Harwood: yeah, well, you keep bringing up Taylor Swift. Are you? What's going on with that? That's, that's suspect.
Jacob Litton: think that that was a solid I said, the comparison ends there, but I think that was a solid comparison when you brought up Oh, the stadium goes crazy. Well, you [00:31:00] know
Jason Harwood: Let's just say at the Rams game, they played lose yourself and the crowd went, like, was just rapping the whole song. I don't know if you're playing Taylor Swift at Kansas City, if everyone's singing a Taylor Swift song. I don't think that that's happening, but maybe I'm wrong.
Jacob Litton: Look it up. You don't know,
Jason Harwood: Did that
Jacob Litton: you don't have TikTok or Twitter or anything. Yes, it
Jason Harwood: Oh, okay, well, I guess, I mean,
Jacob Litton: thought it was funny though. Uh, you know, Barry left Detroit in 1998. dropped the Slim Shady LP in
Jason Harwood: yep, yeah. Well.
Jacob Litton: Eminem comes
Jason Harwood: That's another argument I would make, Barry left kind of like suddenly, and for a time period there, people of Detroit didn't really, uh, look fondly on Barry Sanders for that time period, it was a rough look, when he kind of left and retired quickly, and it just took him a while to come back, but once he came back, he's definitely well loved by the Lions fans.
I remember I went to a, [00:32:00] I don't even, it was after Emmett Smith broke, Walter Payton's rushing record. He was rushing. And so then they would announce that he broke the record, you know, in our, at Ford Field. But the Barry chants just rang out like really loud. Like, you know, yeah, you're what you're doing is great, but you know, you're only doing this is because Barry Sanders retired.
, I think Eminem, you know, is just more identified with Detroit. I think that he's done a lot for Detroit too,
Jacob Litton: I see where you're coming
from. I'm not as a hard stance on this one. Like I said, I mean actual true Lions fans would have picked Barry Sanders, but I mean,
Jason Harwood: Yeah, I know, I know.
Jacob Litton: were, were you in high school or were you already in college when Eminem came out?
Jason Harwood: Um, so it would have been, I would have been in college and I remember my roommate at the time saying, I'm, we, it was when we used to buy CDs. So he, he said, , I'm going to get this Eminem CD. [00:33:00] And I'm like, I hadn't even heard him at that point. We went and got it.
Yeah, it was just on constant rotation in the dorm room, so yeah, it was, yeah, it was just when I was just going to college.
Jacob Litton: and start wearing those white, white feeders?
Jason Harwood: No, that's, I don't, I didn't wear, he didn't wear, well it was his more like a white t shirt, I guess he did wear white beaters too, but I did dye my hair blonde one time, yeah, I did do that, um,
Jacob Litton: That's not surprising at all.
Jason Harwood: no, it shouldn't be, you know, you can call me Stan or whatever you want to call me, that's fine.
Jacob Litton: Jason thought he was the real Slim
Shady.
Jason Harwood: not at all. That's, uh, not me. And,
Jacob Litton: left and exposed him.
Jason Harwood: you know, the hair had already started to leave when I dyed my hair. And then it just, you know, yeah, no. It was a last ditch effort to feel young again. But, no.
Jacob Litton: could only dye the hair on the back of his
Jason Harwood: Yeah, that's right. On the sides, too, man. On the sides.
No, at that time I had hair on the top of my head, too, but that's Waved bye bye a long time ago, along with my youth. Heh heh.
Jacob Litton: I've never even seen a picture of you with [00:34:00] hair.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, you know my kids have only seen a few too, cause I lost it pretty, I lost it pretty young, ever since I've been with my wife, I didn't have hair then either, so I was, I was way too young.
Jacob Litton: Good for her to be able to look past that.
Jason Harwood: um, that's right, look, so, hey man, just, it's hair is just hair, just cause, you know, you got your spiked, it,
Jacob Litton: so I don't know what she saw.
Jason Harwood: You don't know how much I'm worth, so, no, I'm just joking,
Jacob Litton: felt bad for you. You
Jason Harwood: lost a bet, and it's been a very long bet, so, and then kids came along, and she lost another bet, she can't leave now, so,
Jacob Litton: trapped her.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, that's right.
That's what I did. Yeah, that's exactly what I did. I like dated her for a few years. We got married then. Five years later we had a kid and now she's stuck with me. Just a very long punked episode. You know, Ashton Kutcher jumped out. Do you know who that is?
Ashton Kutcher, you know who that is, right?
Jacob Litton: I remember
Jason Harwood: So, you know, I'd be remiss if we didn't talk about some of the stuff that, you know, Barry did as [00:35:00] a lion, just because you'll never see some of these things, um, ever again. So he had five seasons of 1, 500 or more yards.
He had 14 games in a row of rushing for 100 yards. Uh, in his career, he had 25, 150 plus rushing yards, uh, and he was the first running back to have 280 plus yard touchdowns runs in one game. Those are just Madden numbers. It was, it's unbelievable.
So he never had a season under a thousand yards rushing. He had only really one season that he missed games with a knee injury and that one. He played the first 11 games and he rushed for 1, 100 yards and that was 93. Then of course in 97, he had the 2, 000 yard rush season.
So, you know, um, you know, running back MVP, I mean, now it's just basically the best quarterback, gets that award, but, um, which is unfortunate, but [00:36:00] just an unreal running back. It's just, um, just a shame that he didn't get a franchise like it's turned into right now where just the right people are in the right spot making the right decisions, you know?
It's,
Jacob Litton: It was a long overdue,
Jason Harwood: It's just a shame. I'm just glad he's back and he's, he's kinda in the public eye so he's, he's, Uh, he's definitely basking in the glow. It's, I bet you it's better for him to be in interviews now, you know, asking, well, how the lions are doing so good as opposed to the opposite of, you know, what can the lions do or how are they going to screw up this, you know, or whatever.
So I, yeah, I, I still think Eminem is the more iconic Detroit figure, if that's how we're gonna phrase it. Whereas if, you know, you're a diehard Lions fan, and that's just your realm, you know, yes, I think you identify Barry Sanders
Jacob Litton: see your point. I agree with you there.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, so, you know, I,
Jacob Litton: You're still wrong about the interception,
Jason Harwood: yeah, I know, I, I still think the iffy one is, [00:37:00] It's funny that we're just, you think the iffy one is like the better play, like as far as like the play on the ball.
Jacob Litton: right?
Jason Harwood: I still, I mean,
Jacob Litton: if you're going to be completely wrong, you're gonna be wrong once, but it'd be wrong twice, right? Is that your motto?
Jason Harwood: yeah, well, you know, I'll just talk in very confusing circles so that no one knows what's going on, and then I, that's how I confuse my opponent, and then we just walk away. So, are you ready to walk away yet?
Jacob Litton: Yeah. I mean, I've made my point.
Jason Harwood: I'd be curious to see everybody's answers. So go on Facebook or write us talking Grit podcast@yahoo.com. I'd be glad to hear other people's arguments.
Jacob Litton: You can find us on Tik Tok and Instagram and we got pretty much all the socials up right now. So
Jason Harwood: Okay,
use, find us on there uh, let Jason know that he's dumb.
I, you let me know that plenty [00:38:00] and you know, I've talked about my therapist with it and she said, you just, you know, this is one of life's lessons and you just need to work through it. So that's why I'm on this podcast with you. It's like therapy for me.
Jacob Litton: nice.
Jason Harwood: So, all right. So I think it's about time. We're going to get right into the Honolulu Blitz.
Jason Harwood: All right, Jacob, I think, I answered first last time. I'm going to ask you the questions first this time. Are you ready? Okay.
Jacob Litton: Okay. Yep. I'm ready.
Jason Harwood: All right. Who threw Calvin Johnson his first TD pass?
Jacob Litton: Stafford.
Jason Harwood: Nope.
Jacob Litton: Who was it?
Jason Harwood: John Kitna.
Jacob Litton: Oh, okay.
Jason Harwood: Uh, yeah. Uh,
Jacob Litton: was drafted the year before Stafford or was
Jason Harwood: So Stafford, uh, came after.
Jacob Litton: John Kit. Nah,
Jason Harwood: Yeah. All right. Does Matthew Stafford have over or under 45, 000 yards passing for the Lions?
Jacob Litton: it's gotta be [00:39:00] pretty close to 45. I'll say under
Jason Harwood: Ooh, it's over and it's 45, 109. So you were right. You were right. I give you credit on that one, but I just picked a number.
Jacob Litton: over under when there's a hundred yard difference.
Jason Harwood: Hey, you said it was close. You still picked under. You're, you're wrong. See, you just can't take being wrong, so.
Jacob Litton: I mean, actually I was right. I would have been right either way.
Jason Harwood: No, you weren't. You said you were pretty close, but you said under. The answer was over under.
You said under, and it's over. You're wrong. Just, just agree.
Jacob Litton: I'm I've accepted it.
Jason Harwood: All right, we don't know if you're wrong yet or not, but who's going to lead the league in rushing this year?
Jacob Litton: I'll say McCaffrey.
Jason Harwood: Good, good, uh, good bet. All right. This is really funny because I wrote this question before we had any of the, any of the stuff. Will Taylor Swift be at the Lions preseason game this year when they play the Chiefs?
Jacob Litton: No, she will not.
Jason Harwood: All right. All right. And this one, uh, you know, I can't tell if you're wrong or not, but, um, your opinion may be wrong.
[00:40:00] So what's your favorite movie of all time?
Jacob Litton: The Sandlot.
Jason Harwood: Oh, wow. Man, I didn't think
Jacob Litton: If you're going all time, the Sandlot is my movie from when I was a kid. You know, my cousins and family can attest that I used to watch that on repeat all the time
Jason Harwood: Okay.
Jacob Litton: watch it with my kids now.
Jason Harwood: Well, it's a great movie to watch.
Jacob Litton: would say Stead brothers,
Jason Harwood: Okay. All right.
Jacob Litton: but we're going all time. I gotta say Sandlot,
Jason Harwood: Sandlot, alright. Well, you can't go wrong with Sandlot. Nope, that's a, that's a sweet movie.
Jacob Litton: right?
Jason Harwood: Alright, that's it for my questions. You got yours lined up?
Jacob Litton: Okay, are you ready?
Jason Harwood: Yep, I'm ready to go.
Jacob Litton: All right, here we go. Dan Campbell was drafted by what team?
Jason Harwood: The Giants. I
Jacob Litton: Who was the last lions cornerback to make an all pro team?
Jason Harwood: mean, I wanna say Slay, but that just seems like you're baiting me into saying the wrong answer. I'm gonna say Slay, but
Jacob Litton: Yeah, it is.
Jason Harwood: [00:41:00] Okay.
Jacob Litton: I'm not going to go obscure. And I'm sure the last corner before him was probably 30, 40 years before that.
Jason Harwood: Uh, yeah.
Jacob Litton: would have to look, what college do we have the most players from currently as the roster sits right now?
Jason Harwood: Ooh. Well, I wanna say Iowa or Alabama, but those might be Got a couple Michigan guys I got three Michigan guys We got at least three Alabama guys. Ooh, man. No, just two Iowa. I'm gonna say Alabama just because, um, I'm just guessing, but that's what I'm gonna say.
Jacob Litton: right, no. That's close. So we actually, we have five players right now from the University of Michigan.
Jason Harwood: Dewey. Okay.
Jacob Litton: have four from Alabama and also four from Notre Dame.
Jason Harwood: Okay. So who are the five Is it
Jacob Litton: have that with me right
Jason Harwood: Okay, cause
Jacob Litton: that there's at least, like, maybe two or three that are, [00:42:00] like, offseason or undrafted for
Jason Harwood: Okay, cause they, well, they got the kicker, right? So, that, uh, that's one of them. Like, the wolverine's kicker from last year. So that's one of them, and then DPJ, Aiden, and, um, uh,
Jacob Litton: I'm
Jason Harwood: Graham. I don't know who the fifth,
Jacob Litton: Bama players are guys that are gonna be there on the final roster,
Jason Harwood: yeah.
Jacob Litton: probably not so much for the Michigan.
Jason Harwood: Alright, gotcha. Alright.
Jacob Litton: um, let's see, where were we? Alright, what, what quarterback started the final game for the Lions at the Silverdome?
Jason Harwood: What year was, can, we, can I get a habit year or do you know that?
Jacob Litton: can give you the year, I don't have it in
Jason Harwood: Yeah.
Jacob Litton: on. I know it was against the Cowboys. 2001,
Jason Harwood: So,
Jacob Litton: According to Google, I'd have to
Jason Harwood: uh,
Jacob Litton: Okay, so they played their final game January 6, 2002.
Jason Harwood: 2002, man,
Jacob Litton: 2001 2002 season.[00:43:00]
Jason Harwood: was that Mike McMahon?
Jacob Litton: It was not.
Jason Harwood: Oh,
Jacob Litton: guess, I've actually heard of him, I know who that
Jason Harwood: all right.
Jacob Litton: Uh, so it was Ty Detmer.
Jason Harwood: Oh my gosh. Ty Demmer throw like seven interceptions in a game. Ty Demmer.
Jacob Litton: Alright, and then the last question, if you could right now add any current player to our roster, who would it
Jason Harwood: Ooh, man.
Jacob Litton: Not thinking about what it would cost, just if you could add him for free.
Jason Harwood: Oh, Max Crosby. You, you set him across Aiden Hutchinson.
Jacob Litton: that's a great pick. I wanted him at the deadline.
my gosh, yeah, I, I mean, if you, there's not really a lot of people that want to replace, but having Max Crosby across from Aiden, I mean, it's just as a football fan, I'd want to see that, but you know, especially as a Lions fan,
and yeah, right, right.
Jason Harwood: yeah, no, that would be, that would be sweet.
That's a good question. I like that one.
Jacob Litton: Right?
Jason Harwood: I'll have to remember that and ask you in about [00:44:00] three when everyone's forgot what I, what, you know, you asked me that. So now it's good. Now, man, I love this on a Lulu Blitz. I think this is, it's fun to be able to get quiz, get put on the spot. And, and yeah, I, nice that I can be wrong every once in a while.
It lets me know I'm human. So, you know, I'm so perfect all the time.
Jacob Litton: Yeah. Next time you're asking over and under for something that's already happened, maybe do more than the hundred yard difference.
Jason Harwood: No, that was right there. What? Well, yeah.
Jacob Litton: I said he had to be pretty close
Jason Harwood: I know. I know. It's pretty close, but you know,
Jacob Litton: when I'm wrong I'm right
Jason Harwood: you're, yeah, exactly. You must be so much, you must be so fun to be married to.
Jacob Litton: oh right
Jason Harwood: Yeah. Do you let your wife ever be right or no?
Jacob Litton: no
Jason Harwood: No, no, I can't believe.
Jacob Litton: I'm googling it you know what when I'm right I'm right and when I'm wrong I'm not wrong it's just a learning experience
Jason Harwood: Oh, that's good. You got to learn from your [00:45:00] mistakes. That's probably why you're so smart. You've learned from so many of them
Jacob Litton: they make fun of me. JJ is the same way now, too. If you if we have differing opinions or something, I'm right on Google.
Jason Harwood: just right in there, huh?
Jacob Litton: wrong, then I just drop it.
Jason Harwood: Then you're done? You're like, where did dad go? I don't know. He's,
Jacob Litton: the subject quickly and move
Jason Harwood: yeah, he's sitting out in the garage in the car by himself, quietly talking to himself. Yeah, that sounds about right. That's, that's the Jacob that I know. Like, arguing at work? Yeah, yeah,
Jacob Litton: up front, whatever I'm Googling. Hang on.
Jason Harwood: yeah,
Jacob Litton: Make sure I'm right.
Jason Harwood: yeah, that's right. I know I turn around and you're like, gone to the back or something like that.
Where'd Jacob go?
Jacob Litton: happened.
Jason Harwood: hmm. Yeah, no.
Jacob Litton: stuff, but I will, I promise you nine times out of 10, I'm right. And then I just have solid facts. Now,
Jason Harwood: Yeah, alright, that's good. I'm glad you could learn all your things, you know, and I'm glad you had time at work to Google stuff when the rest [00:46:00] of us are working really hard and you're sitting in the back on your phone. That sounds about right. This all tracks.
Jacob Litton: so,
Jason Harwood: This all tracks.
Jacob Litton: that was good for the Calvin Johnson question. I'll give you
Jason Harwood: yeah.
Jacob Litton: the first question. I, like I thought about for a second, went Stafford and then I should
Jason Harwood: I, I thought that the first inclination would be to say Stafford, but I, I
Jacob Litton: Got
Jason Harwood: it was Kitna when I looked it up. I wasn't a hundred percent before I looked it up. I was pretty sure it was Kitna. But, um, then I, I just wanted to double check and I just, I thought, you know, that's his favorite player. I thought he would at least know who threw his first touchdown pass, but no, you didn't know.
Yeah, I did.
Jacob Litton: liked Kitna.
Jason Harwood: Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
Jacob Litton: wasn't the best quarterback, but as far as a teammate goes
Jason Harwood: no.
Jacob Litton: to put it all on the line.
Jason Harwood: No, no, he was a good teammate. Yeah, he was a solid quarterback, but, you know, then, yeah. Then you had Dan Orwowski running out of the back of the end zone. Now, is that something that you remember? That play? Where he ran out of the back of the end [00:47:00] zone? Or is that, like, too young for you? Do you know what play I'm talking about?
Jacob Litton: Yeah, I know what you're talking
Jason Harwood: Okay.
Jacob Litton: That's iconic now.
Jason Harwood: Well, yeah, I mean,
Jacob Litton: I do remember it at the time, but I feel like it just wasn't I guess I wasn't as heavily invested in it to where it was ruining my day every time I lost.
Jason Harwood: oh, I, I was,
Jacob Litton: much it was not
Jason Harwood: yeah, no, I was watching that game when Arulovsky ran out the back end zone and it was like, it was just a picturesque of what the lions were like, just oblivious, everyone else has stopped because he's like two yards, you know, into the white and the, You know in the out of bounds and
Jacob Litton: keeps
Jason Harwood: he still keeps going he doesn't realize and it's like, oh my god, you know I wonder how much that gets brought up to him when he's like in his broadcasting things I mean anybody
Jacob Litton: sure people use it all the time still.
Jason Harwood: right?
I mean if anybody like if he's ever winning an argument That's all you got to do is bring that up Wait, how you gonna come back from that? At [00:48:00] least I don't run out of the back of the end zone
Jacob Litton: Yeah, right.
Jason Harwood: And you can't come back from that. I mean, there's just nothing. So
Jacob Litton: Well, and that was his first ever start.
Especially when you were at that time, you're coming in with, you know, bare bones lineups and, just no depth.
Jason Harwood: Well, this has been fun. I, uh, it was kind of a different show for us because we got to do a little debate and, you know, a little kind of, uh, Just you know, not timely topic. So I really enjoyed that. That was fun. We'll have to do something like this in the future.
So Are you gonna play it back to see how you know, how wrong you were or see if I change your mind or
Jacob Litton: you know, when you release it, I'll put the poll up on a couple different things and then
Jason Harwood: yeah
Jacob Litton: we can talk about how, how wrong you were.
Jason Harwood: All right. Well, I'm gonna release this when you're on vacation, so you won't be able to you know, bask in the glow too much
Jacob Litton: I'll find a way.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, I'm sure you will. Like, where's dad? We're at Universal. Where's dad? [00:49:00] He's trying to find Wi Fi. Yeah, he's googling and trying to find Wi Fi. So, all right, man. Well, for Jacob, uh, Jason, I just want to, offer appreciation for everybody that's listening.
I hope you're really enjoying it. Um, we really, uh, really appreciate five star reviews. If you, you know, think we deserve that, um, that would really help us in the, you know, search engines on.
Jacob Litton: Jason's, uh, you know, opinions into consideration.
Jason Harwood: What? No, man. See, you're cutting right into my, we're asking for people's help and you can't even, you're, you're pushing me, you're putting me down. This is, oh
Jacob Litton: up 2 star opinions.
Jason Harwood: my god. That's, that's a good one. I, I, I have no response to that. That was, that was good.
Jacob Litton: get the bat off the shoulder.
Jason Harwood: Yeah, that's right. You know, it's okay. It's okay. I don't, I don't want to be hurtful, you know?
Jacob Litton: a really good comeback tomorrow.
Jason Harwood: Mm hmm.
Jacob Litton: it right in.
Jason Harwood: I know, it's great. I, [00:50:00] uh, this edit button. I wish I had that in life. I could just, uh, edit something right in. So,
Jacob Litton: need one of those at work.
Jason Harwood: uh, I do.
I do. Uh, just, I almost want one in real life. Just like, wait, let's back up 15 seconds. I didn't say that. Alright, so, for, for Jacob, I'm Jason. Just wanted to say thank you again. Everybody have a great day and go lions!