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E22: "Pride Preview" - Week 2: Bucs vs Lions (with Tampa Tones)

Jason Harwood / Jacob Litton / Tampa Tones Season 1 Episode 22

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In this episode of Talking Grit, hosts Jason Harwood and Jacob Litton provide an in-depth preview of the Detroit Lions' upcoming Week 2 matchup against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The episode features an interview with Tampa Tones from the Bucketeers podcast, who discusses Tampa Bay's player changes, draft picks, and injuries, including notable additions like Graham Barton and Tykee Smith. The hosts analyze the Buccaneers' offensive and defensive strategies, highlight key players, and predict outcomes for the game. They also dive into injury reports for both teams and discuss how these might impact the game. The discussion wraps up with a look at key matchups and strategies for the Lions to secure a win, followed by the hosts' game predictions and a guarantee that highlights the expected standout performances.

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Jason Harwood:

Welcome to talking grit. You can find us on Twitter@Talkinggritpod. You can also reach us on Reddit. Anytime you have a question or a comment, we'd love to hear it. I'm Jason Harwood. And with me is Jacob Litton.

We are here to talk to you about the Detroit Lions matchup in week two with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Jason Harwood:

It's a very familiar opponent having faced them twice last year. And obviously Derek Barnes ended their season last year with his iconic interception. Shortly, we will play our interview with Tampa tones from the Bucketeers podcast. But first, before we do that, Jacob and I want to go over some notable player additions and losses, how this team has changed since the last time we played them in the playoffs. First we're going to start off with some of their draft picks. You want to hit us off with that, Jacob?

Jacob Litton:

Yeah, in the draft, their first round pick, they drafted an offensive lineman who's currently starting at center for them, Graham Barton, out of Duke. Second rounder, edge defender, Chris Braswell out of Alabama, third round safety, Tykee Smith out of Georgia. they also got their wide receiver, Jalen McMillan out of Washington in the third round. And then, the fourth round running back, Bucky Irving out of Oregon. Most of these guys have seen playing time already and are actually, you know, Establishing themselves on the roster.

Jason Harwood:

Ryan Jensen, their starting center from last year retired. So they've moved Grant Barton right into starting center for them. He was one of their lower graded PFF by PFF standards last week, which is probably not surprising. That's a tough position to just be thrust into as a rookie.

Jacob Litton:

Right. A lot to learn with that center position. But I mean, the other rookies you have, Bucky Irving, he's already getting carries. They're talking about, he's already been a more effective rusher than their other running back and McMillan's quarter touchdown last week. So, I mean, It's always good when your rookies are making plays.

Jason Harwood:

Yeah, exactly. We'll also moved on to some of their free agents so first Devin White, linebacker. Gone Shaq Barrett left, uh, Carlton Davis. We all know where he ended up, uh, right here in Detroit and a trade. And then Ryan Jensen, their starting center from last year, retired probably Jensen and Davis are the biggest losses for their team, but Devin White, Shaq Barrett, had a really good career with Tampa Bay.

Jacob Litton:

Yeah. They were both really solid players. I mean, probably starting to show a little bit of regression there and they decided to move on and not re sign them. Shaq Bear actually signed with the Dolphins, but then he retired before they made it to training camp. So. You know, he was just ready to hang it up.

Jason Harwood:

Some of the re signings that they had was, Baker Mayfield, obviously. And a resurgent year last year, uh, got them into the playoffs. They won their division, signed a contract, um, three years, I think it was three years, a hundred million. It has a chance with incentives to go up to 115 million. If you keep playing the way he played last year, you know, based on the way the contracts are being signed this year, that ends up, that could end up being a really, really good deal for, for Tampa Bay.

Jacob Litton:

I think it already looks like a good deal for them, right? I mean,

Jason Harwood:

mean, he's got, he's got to play and, you know, Remains starter, but I mean last week for touchdowns looked like a world beater. I granted they're playing the commanders last year, like I said, a weaker division, but still you, you go out and you win your division and they rewarded him with that contract. But I think it's kind of a win win, as Baker Mayfield was year pre previous was bouncing around, he's starting the Browns, goes to Carolina, gets released, then, signs with the Rams and then. Like plays that week and, plays basically backyard football and ends up winning that game. Which as lions fans, we didn't want to see because of that particular year that made the Rams draft pick a little bit better, still end up being number six, but I remember being mad

Jacob Litton:

yeah.

Jason Harwood:

that he came in. That he came back in that game. Um, Antoine Winfield jr. Signed a huge contract four years, 184. 1 million dollars. That's their, you know, all pro safety. That's back there. Levante David is back. Mike Evans, re sign William Golsan. And then, another big contract, this wasn't a re sign. This was an extension, but Tristan Werf's their left tackle.

Jacob Litton:

Yeah, that was huge for them. You know, we already know about locking down the offensive linemen for sure. You got a good one, you keep them around.

Jason Harwood:

they've locked up their players, very similar to what the lions have done, locked up players that perform with them. I only found really like three notable free agent acquisitions, which was Jordan Whitehead safety. He was on the bucks. Went to the jets. Now he's back. Uh, Sua Opeta from a guard from Eagles. He's on the IR. So he's not even playing. And then the other big signing they had was Bryce Hall. They're starting cornerback. Um, and they just placed him on the IR. So three of their free agent, you know, acquisitions and two of them are on the IR. So that. That's rough.

Jacob Litton:

Jordan Whitehead had a good week last week. I mean, going to be asking a lot from him in the secondary now. So I think that's a really important one for him. They need him to play. Well,

Jason Harwood:

The only other notable, this is not a player change, but a coach change. They got Liam Cohen, who is first year offensive coordinator. Cause Dave Canales left for the Carolina Panthers job. Dave Canales was, everyone's like, Oh, you've resurrected baker Mayfield I don't know if I necessarily believe that, but he parlayed that into, you know, a head coaching job. Liam Cohen is in the Sean McVay coaching tree. Um, so it would be, you know, similar to what we saw last week. We're probably going to see a lot of those same concepts come back up. That's enough on the changes of the roster. Let's talk about the hearing now. Let's talk about the injury report. Uh, we're recording this as of Wednesday night. The injury report was released at 4 p. m. today. Jacob, do you want to tell us who's on the injury report for both teams?

Jacob Litton:

Yeah, so the most current injury report that we have, looks like this. So for the Buccaneers getting in limited practice linebacker K. J. Brit defensive line, William Golston, offensive tackle Luke got a key defensive line, Logan Hall and cornerback Zion McCollum. Players that did not practice are going to be defensive back Josh Hayes. Defensive lineman, Kalyja Kancey, and then the safety, the big one, Antoine Winfield Jr., did not practice and looks like he's not going to play. flip it over the lion's side. We had limited practices from, Jamison Williams. So you have Marcus Davenport that did not practice. Kirby didn't practice. Ify still did not practice. Panay Sewell did not practice. Um, but got a full practice out of Carlton Davis, who had a chest injury. And the biggest one and the greatest news is that we did get a full practice in from our Defensive lineman, DJ reader, which is huge. And that, you know, leads me to believe that he's definitely going to be going, uh, for sure this week.

Jason Harwood:

Let's not scare the people here. Penesol did not practice today, but Dave Burkett, beat writer for the Lions, posted on Twitter that Penesol said, I'm good. So I'm assuming that his ankle did get rolled up on during the game, but he probably was just given a veteran's day or a day off to let that heal up. Unless some, you know, re aggravates it in the practice, I don't think he's going to miss any, any part of this game.

Jacob Litton:

I think the only still questionable one is that you have a, if he with the ankle injury, I don't know exactly where he stands.

Jason Harwood:

Yeah, I think Davenport, they said he aggravated his groin in the game, but he played the rest of the game, so he was probably just giving a day to rest up, so I'm assuming that's how the Kirby Joseph one is interesting, because he apparently came out for practice and then left while the media was still there, so the media only sees like the first 15 minutes of practice, and then they, they are not allowed to see More of the practice and Kirby stepped out at that time. So we were really won't know more until Dan Campbell comes up and talks. Um, and then the practice reports for the next couple of days come out. We'll, we might learn some more. That's enough on the injury front. Let's move over to our interview with Tampa tones, the podcaster from the Bucketeers, podcast. Very informative interview. You guys are going to learn a lot about Tampa and, um, just this guy is intelligent. So I hope you enjoy this interview. We enjoy talking with them. With us right now, we have Tampa Tones, from the Buccaneers podcast down there in Tampa Bay. We are so happy to have him here. Um, so Tampa, how long have you been doing your podcast? You know, how long have you been a Buccaneers fan?

Tampa Tones:

Thank you fellas for having me. Awesome stuff here. And you know, Detroit, Tampa, a little bit of an old rivalry back in the day. So it was good to you. Reunite with fellow friends or frenemies come Sunday, I should say regardless. So, uh, I, I've been doing this for a bit now. I've been a Bucks fan since 1995 and I could give credit to my father for that. I was a. young one and he had NFL Sunday ticket back in that day and you just always watch football games. And I remember here in Warren Sapp here, Mike Elstat seeing the color red. It caught my eye greatly. Mike Elstat was a local from where I grew up. I grew up around the Chicagoland area as did Mike Elstat. So that was a good connection I had there. And then Warren Sapp was a monster and His name was cool. Sap. I'm like, who doesn't like a guy named Sap, right? So, um, ended up later on that year. I was, um, Mike Elstott for Halloween one year, then Warren Sap Halloween the next year and really gelled with the whole team. I was a fan at a young age watching the first Superbowl they won on my couch. I solely remember, uh, Kicking the Raiders butts and that was a beautiful thing. And, uh, you know, we got John Gruden from the Raiders and then it was years and years of pain and misery and through that pain and misery. I'm like, I might as well podcast and start covering the team a little bit to try and ease up on the pain and misery. Because as you fellows know, loss is still sting and it's still awful. But when you have a podcast or you have a platform to talk about it a little bit, it does make it a little better, a little more therapeutic. You could talk about it, talk through things when you don't have a podcast and stuff, you bottle up your emotions a little bit and you know, it takes things out on you. So I'm like, let me start. I started off writing about the bucks for this, uh, fantasy football site. Back in the day, it was called time skew podcast. They started that in late 2018. I did that till about through COVID little after COVID 2020, 2021. We had fun with that. We did some player interviews for the NFL draft. And then I started wanting to transition. I'm like, you know what, I kind of liked this podcast thing when I was doing those podcasts and interviews. So I'm like, I'm just going to pick up my own podcast, nothing against writing. I enjoyed it at the time. It was a fun thing. I covered the draft, they covered the box, but at the end of the day, I loved podcast. And so I started my own podcast. We're called the Bucketeers. We go, we go as we please, you know, they come in and come out every episode. I got a different cast on. So it's kind of unique, kind of fun, a lot of different voices. And, uh, That's where we stand today is the Bucketeers, six of us. And we're on three times a week, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturday mornings, Thursdays, we got a different co host or a different main host than on Tuesdays and Saturdays, I run the show. So we have some fun over there. That's for sure.

Jason Harwood:

good. Well, we got someone with experience, Jacob. So I think we're in good hands to answer our questions. Right?

Jacob Litton:

Yeah. Right. Sounds

Jason Harwood:

Yeah, that's right. Get ready. I mean, we played them 2 times last year. Right? So we're already very familiar. It's like, you know, we're back going to the division days. Right? We played do 2 times last year.

Tampa Tones:

And you guys maybe gave us our two most painful losses of the year last year, a, because one ultimately ended our season and B because as we alluded to now, we're running means we go back a little bit. We had our creamsicle reunion game creamsicles went away for years and years and years because of the silly nfl rule where you could only wear one helmet at a time whatever obviously the buccaneers couldn't wear their throwback helmets with their modern day uniforms that would look like a uh interesting thing there so And now last year, we're like, Hey, let's do it against old friends of lions. And you guys kicked their butts in both games. Well, actually the playoff game was fun, but you guys kind of manage both games, I should say rather. So we're due for a little payback. How about that?

Jacob Litton:

Yeah.

Jason Harwood:

not this week. Maybe not this week. Tampa. Uh, so Jacob, why don't you lead us off here? Why don't you get us with our 1st question?

Jacob Litton:

First question we have for you, with so many injuries in your secondary right now, who are they going to look on to fill those roles? Yeah.

Tampa Tones:

It's going to be a lot of young guys, a lot of inexperienced guys, a lot of undrafted free agents. To be quite honest with you, we brought back Keenan Isaac, UDFA out of Alabama State. He was an undrafted free agent last year. He played a couple of games. He was on the active. Uh, roster for a couple of games towards the end of the year. I believe Indianapolis, uh, was one of the games he played last year as well, but he was a hot commodity this preseason. He fell short of making our roster. We waved him. Then he went to Tampa East. I call Carolina nowadays, Tampa East. So he had a brief stint in Tampa East on their practice squad. And since we're so banged up, we brought him back and we actually signed him. To the active roster now another guy to look out for another undrafted free agent this year this time Tyreek Funderburk, he's out of Appalachian state. We had him on the podcast actually A couple weeks back about a month ago now, maybe a couple months ago losing track of time here But Tyreek Funderburk front of the shows. He's been hurt most of preseason. He was hurt week one wasn't ready to roll in a He'll be on the active ro So you're gonna have a co free agents between uh, K Tyreek Funderburg, Funder year, Keenan Isaac, a roo outside of that, you're g round pick last year, Jos special teams cat. He was He got one all pro vote for special teams as a rookie last year. Shout out to him, but he'll play a bigger role as well. So very unexperienced guys back there. And if Winfield's out, you're going to see Christian Izzy and undrafted free agent yet again, from last season, take his spot. So I will give kudos to guys like Todd Bowles and Jason light and fill in this roster very well with either late round picks or undrafted rookies. But at the end of the day, Not too many of them had a play all together at this point. And oh, by the way, inactive last week, he'll be active this week. It's a safety position. KVM Meriwether out of Iowa. Oh, guess what? Undrafted free agent rookie as well. So you're going to have pretty much Jordan Whitehead who Superbowl champion left for a couple of years to the jets. Now he came back this off season. I'm thrilled we have him back, but. He's experienced. And then you got Jamel Dean, uh, Super Bowl champ corner, Carlton Davis's best friend. You guys know Carlton Davis. Well, now, uh, so we'll have Dean. We'll have Whitehead. Those will be the two vets, but. Odds are, Winfield's out. Odds are, Zion McCollum will be out, our third year cornerback. And then you're going to start seeing the likes of no others. Oh, cause we lost Bryce Hall, not to be mistaken with Breece Hall, but Bryce Hall, former Jets cornerback, he's out for the year as well. He got injured in last week's game. So between Keenan Isaac, Tyreek Funderburg, KVM Merriweather, and Joshua Hayes, and those type of players, you're going to be seeing a lot of inexperienced UDF phase. Late round rookies fill in the void. And really it's kind of a scary thing,

Jacob Litton:

uh, what about the other rookie that you have, Tykee Smith?

Tampa Tones:

Tyke. We, he was a preseason commodity and not to say I was disappointed last week, but feel like the game flow just didn't cement to his role. He's going to be a hybrid guy as well, but I feel like bowls was trying to covered him, shelter him a little bit. Week one. Because he is a rookie, right? But you're not going to be able to week two. So he's going to play a pivotal role. Will it be at safety more? Will it be a nickel more? Will it be? Cause he could do both. So he's going to either have to play nickel or safety for us at some sort of capacity as well. But another rookie there. But I see him playing a good bit, but I do like these UDFA kids to play a little more than him, just based on experience. They're in years two, most of them. Um,

Jacob Litton:

Right.

Tampa Tones:

know, Todd Bowles loves the experience. So as much as I like Tai Chi and he will be essential, I mean, they love their SEC cats as well as Georgia kids, so he's going to get his how soon that is could be as soon as this week, but I lean more towards him. I think it'll be on the field. Uh, I'd give him about 40 percent of snaps. I'll put it about that. 40 percent of the defensive snaps. We'll see Taiki Smith, but a rookie that we like a lot. As we do edge rusher crisper as well from Alabama, but they're kind of more raw and they'll need a little bit more grooming. And then I think, you know, come our bye week, you'll see a lot more of these cats on the field. Kind of like Yaya Diaby last year, Josh Hayes last year, trial by fire with these rookies. Todd Bowles doesn't care if you're a UDFA or you're round two pick, whoever he feels more comfortable with, that's who we're going to see on the field. So ultimately I think Taiki does play. as the UDF phase from last year and this year,

Jason Harwood:

like our, you know, our coaching staff, if you show well in the practice field and they feel comfortable with you, it doesn't matter if you're UDFA, you're going to be out there playing, and the Lions have multiple UDFAs on their roster right now as a Superbowl, contender. So we, we totally understand that. I want to jump back. You mentioned Carlton Davis. You've had him on your roster for, you know, years now. So We're getting him. We've had one game with them. What can we, what can lions expect from Carlton Davis?

Tampa Tones:

He's a warrior. He's a fighter. He's a champion. He's a guy who doesn't back down. He's, he's never afraid. He never feels overwhelmed by the guy across from him. And, uh, he's had some really fun battles in Tampa, whether it was. Calling Michael Thomas, slant boy and, uh, kinda shutting him down when it mattered most, or going toe to toe with the likes of any Falcons receiver you could think of. Whether it was Kelvin Ridley in his heyday or modern day Drake, London. He's a tough guy. He's a tough son of a gun. He's going to give you everything he's got. He gets banged up often. And, uh, you know, he's going to miss three to four games a year, most likely. That's just his forte. Um, but at the end of the day, when he's out there for you, he has the prototype and body and physique and physicalities of a cornerback. Number one, I think he's absolutely a high end corner in the National Football League. His problem is, He has feet for hands, stone hands, mitten hands, and you guys will see that he'll make a lot of plays on footballs. But he won't finish the plays ultimately making plays is more important as cornerback, but you would like to see him finish a little more that I think you guys got everything in him and week one. I watch that game closely. He made a lot.

Jacob Litton:

Yeah. Right.

Tampa Tones:

He made a lot of cornerback number 1 type plays. He got banged up a little bit and I think he dropped an interception or two. So you guys got a whole season worth of Carlton in a game.

Jason Harwood:

That's good to hear let's move on to the offense. This is a. Question that, you know, uh, Jacob and I had talked about before we jumped on with you. How do you personally feel about Baker Mayfield, uh, the resigning and how does the overall fan base feel?

Tampa Tones:

Good old Baker. What a career. What a wild ride he's had. I mean, pretty much a guy thrown out of Carolina, picked up off the heap in LA and. Very fond connection there because LA's offensive coordinator at the time, Liam Cohen. Is actually the new Bucks offensive coordinator. So the connection makes sense. And what did the Bucks try and do this off season is weird as it sounds. They tried to hire a guy who could help bring in Baker Mayfield after all those years, who would have thought a team goes out of their way to hire coaching, help to bring back a guy like Baker Mayfield. But I'll tell you what. The fans love him. He's a warrior. He's a fighter. He's a guy who gives you everything you got. He's gritty. He's going to run at you. It could be stupid and it could come back to hurt. But if you're a linebacker out there, he's not going to slide. He's going to try and put a shoulder down and gain a couple more yards. That's the type of guy he is. He's the type of guy you'll see walking around the 813, the Tampa community. You could have a bear with them. You could have lunch with them. Often people say it. If you could picture one guy on the planet to be having a beer with anybody, it would be Baker Mayfield. He doesn't care how long he's known you, who the heck you are. He's going to make you feel comfortable. And I think the day he signed in Tampa, something clicked in him that said, Hey, This is my last shot here. He signed for a mere four million. I mean i'm saying it like it's pennies But he signed for four million dollars last season for a quarterback in the national football league That is pennies, but nonetheless he went out there. He beat out kyle trask in the preseason I think bucks fans fell in love with him even day one when he first signed here. I was A little skeptical, but you know, the fan in me 10 hours after the signing, I have my Baker gear ordered on its way. I was like, I'm getting behind this guy. And it was great. And I think even this year he could be even better because I do believe in Liam Cohen more than I did in Dave Canales. I love Dave Canales. Don't get me wrong, but it's like a Pokemon evolving going from Byron left, which to, uh, you know, Dave Canales to Liam Cohen. Now you get a little more offensive creativity with every coordinator, with every play caller. I mean, Liam Cohen is so experienced. So. That's where the Bucks stand. That's where the fans stand. We are paying them a pretty penny three years, 105 million. But when you compare it to some of these other quarterback contracts, my goodness, it's almost a bargain nowadays. I mean, you're saying I like Daniel Jones makes more money than Baker Mayfield. You're saying a guy don't get me wrong. These cats are good cats, but Trevor Lawrence makes 25 million more a season than Baker Mayfield. You know, like. It's just a little insane. And we hope he's a franchise because when you look at the Bucks, we really haven't had franchise quarterbacks. They're far and few in between. We kicked Doug Williams out, which was one of the stupidest things we've ever done. He goes on to have an illustrious career. We tried to draft guys like Jamis Winston, Josh Freeman, Josh Johnson. None of those guys really panned out. We won the Super Bowl the first time with stopbridge quarterback like Brad Johnson. Pretty much won it this time with Brady on life support. I mean, he was awesome. Incredible best QB we've ever had, but his shelf life is very minimal. And we knew that as Bucs fans. So now this is a chance Baker Mayfield could be the guy to be our QB for six, seven years, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully to come Bucs fans aren't used to having someone like this. So knock on wood. That he is the answer, but if he's not, we'll see what's behind door number two, like Bruce Arians once said.

Jacob Litton:

You're talking about the offensive coordinator, Liam Cohen. Uh, you know, it's only been one week, but have you noticed any changes in the offensive system or philosophy? Do you think he's kind of, you know, trying to cater to Baker Mayfield as far as like the success they had last year? I know the big one is that, you know, Chris Godwin with Canales, he wasn't playing the slot as much. Seems like he's gonna be in a slot all year this year. Have you noticed anything like that? Any changes that have been effective?

Tampa Tones:

absolutely. And that's a great point you mentioned right there, because that was one of the things that had Bucs fans excited. Liam Cohen came in and one of the first interviews, press conferences he had, he said, Godwin is going back to the slot more often. That's where he thrives. That's where he shines. And. Last year to Godwin was coming back for an injury. You know, it's never the bounce back here from an injury is always kind of Hey, knock on wood, stay healthy, whatever production you have. Yes, that's great. But you really want to stay healthy. Godwin accomplished that last year, but his His wife was not happy. She made posts. Hey, we need Chris used more, you know, he needs to go back to the slot. She was calling out for that. So Liam Cohen made note right away. Hey, we're putting Godwin back in the slot. Not only are we putting Godwin back in the slot, we're not going to be selfish like Byron and can Allison waves, but they kind of catered to their game plans and, you know, matchups more. So we're Liam Cohen's like. I'm just going to get my best players involved. Then you saw that last week, Mike Evans, first touchdown he caught last week. It was actually designed screen. The play was a screen and you've seen the screen was set up beautifully. If you go back and watch a film, the all 22 or whatever, the screen was set up beautifully. Uh, the running back, I believe at the time was Rashad white in the game, but he had a line of white jerseys in front of him. Yeah. The bucks do wear white at home, home field advantage, he type stuff. But you know, he had a line of white lined up in front of him. Baker, what did he do? Uh, Liam Cohen created a concept where you could screen or you could go deep. He goes deep to Mike Evans one on one in the end zone easy touchdown. Later in the game, you see a similar concept where the main, the main route is the tight end underneath. Wheelin and dealin but he sets up Jalen McMillan in the flat, in the flank. And he ends up scoring a touchdown rookie. We're very excited about him. So canal is kind of morphed the offense to, Hey, uh, we're going to attack matchups, we're going to game plan and strategize matchups. You know, if they double team, Mike Evans, we're going to try and use this guy more. If they double team Godwin more, we're going to try and use Evans more. Whereas Liam Cohen is like, I don't really care about matchups. I got all these toys at my disposal. I trust my guy, Baker Mayfield. I'm going to create plays. Sophisticated enough where Baker could feel comfortable enough to have multiple outlets. And hey, if they want to double team Evans on that play, great. I'll set up the screen. If they want to flank Evans on this play, great. I'll set this up. But Liam Cohen's creativity is catering to the fact that the offense has an abundant of talents at the wide receiver position. And you might see the Titans go Touchless, they might go two, three catches, but he's going to cater to his strengths. He's going to cater to his needs and he's going to do what's best for this offense instead of being Mr. Balance, Mr. Balance. Yeah, you're going to see the run, but it's going to come at smart times where we could rip off big chunks because the past plays just worked out real well. So I think Liam Cohen caters to the offense, not necessarily to Baker, but more so to the fact that I got these high profile number one and number two receivers. I got a rookie number three receiver. I got a year two, number four receiver. I'm going to utilize their speed and I'm going to utilize, utilize the smartness of my veteran wide receivers where I can rely on them. I could have my QB feel comfortable and we're just going to use them, use them, use them. And oh, by the way, I got a pretty nice run, pass catching running back and Rashad White when the defense falls asleep, I could use. So I think he doesn't cater necessarily to Baker, but he caters more so to the high profile names in the offense,

Jacob Litton:

Well, it was really effective last week for them, for sure. They had a good game.

Tampa Tones:

Man, we, it took us until week nine or 10 last year to score 30 points, to, to put up 30 points. And again, Dave Canales, first time calling plays last year. Liam Cohen comes in, gets it week one. Now I know it's a commander. So, you know, and, and not a, not, I have friends at the command, this podcast, if you guys listen down the road, uh, you know, don't take it as a knock, but you know, I, that's why I'm really excited to see, although, and we might be without a right tackle now as well. Luke Godecky. Um, he, he's, he's in concussion protocol now. It wasn't revealed until today. That's the case. But. Again, I don't mind being shorthanded against a team like the Lions. It's gonna prove a lot. And I'd rather have it this way at the beginning of the year than at the end of the year. So I'm excited for the test this, this coming week. I think it's going to be fun. And, uh, you know, a team like Detroit, a Superbowl contender where the Bucs, yeah, they're expected for the playoffs. I think we're in for a, for a fun one. I think we are, especially with Liam Cohen. Call and plays will lead to a Bucks victory. I don't know, but I think it will be competitive even if we are a little bit shorthand,

Jacob Litton:

Moving on here. Uh, this is a matchup specific, I guess. Uh, you know, what most concerns you about the Detroit Lions?

Tampa Tones:

Where to start, where to start. I mean, there's a lot to be concerned of when you're, when you're a team looking to play the Detroit lions. But I think you'd, you'd be foolish not to mention their running back room. I mean, this is a running back room that. Last year in the playoffs, absolutely gash this Buccaneer team, uh, Montgomery and Gibbs. I think more so it was Gibbs who had the yards per touch, the yards per carry, but Montgomery as well. The first time they played Gibbs was hurt. Montgomery got hurt halfway through the game. And I believe Ronald's was The backup and you know, he played efficiently enough, not great ball, but he even played efficient enough where, you know, had to be scary. Now the Bucs run defense is very good, but at the end of the day, if you're going to be banged up, like we are on the defensive line, again, we might be without Kalijah Cancey. It seems like that's probably going to be the case. Ernest Brown. He's on IR for the first four weeks. So again, he was probably our last D lineman, but that's still another body who's going to miss this football game. And then, uh, Logan Hall, it looks like he's probably going to be out again as well. He was our first pick a couple of years back. Um, it seems like we're going to call up CJ Brewer. Shout out to him. Friend of the Bucketeers. We had him on earlier this summer. That was awesome. So it's cool seeing a guy like that, but a little scary when you see a running back room, like the Lions, and when you do have those sorts of injuries on the defensive line, now I could easily say the same thing about their wide receivers going against a beat up secondary, a Monroe St. Brown, not that he had a bad week one, but it was quiet for his standards. That ain't going to happen all year. So I'd be afraid if I'm the bucks looking at a guy like that, knowing he's licking his chops to get. after a defense is such, um, that's especially banged up without Winfield. So I'm afraid of their running backs in their wide receiver room. I think both they're going to be insanely, insanely dangerous, not only this week, but throughout the season. And, and it goes further than a Monroe St. Brown out there. I mean, I think a very underrated weapon. Quick as heck, Kalief Raymond. I mean, that guy, he gets the ball in his hands and you don't know where he's gonna end up. He's a machine out there. He's quick as heck. I remember last week when 0 100 in speed so quick, I'm like, Is that the Roadrunner making moves out there? So, Jamison Williams, he gets better by the game, it seems. I mean, this was a guy who burnt the bucks. I believe he had like three catches for 60 yards and a touchdown against the Bucs last year or something like that. He had a very long touchdown. So, uh, you know, this is a team that's no short of weapons. Sam Laporta, very good, but I'm not as afraid of him only because Levante David and him, they're going to have an epic battle. That's going to be really fun to watch. You don't know who's going to get the better, but I feel comfortable with Levante David out there. He's not banged up, knock on wood, watch him go down or something. But other than that, I think the running back room, the wide receiver room, those are the match ups to watch because the Bucs are weak right now in terms of injury. And, uh, you know, it does make you a little bit nervous when you hear the names of Montgomery Gibbs, Amonra St. Brown, Jamison Williams, Kalief Raymond go up against the likes of practice squad players and undrafted free agents. Now that's no knock on these guys. They played awesome last week. CJ Brewer had some nice plays. Um, Ben Still, we literally signed them a week and a half ago. We have him playing on our D line now. So, you know, he just got thrown into the fire. And then you also have Mike Green, who played 8 to 10 games for the Bucks last year. He played last week. He's on our practice squad now. So, between our secondary and our defensive line, you have a lot of inexperience, a lot of practice squad guys. But again, I love this man. It's a great test. It's a great litmus test and really lets you know. Hey, are these guys worthy of stepping in? If need, you don't want to throw him in down the road and you don't know what you have in him. Have a strong running back room, have a strong wide receiver room. It adds some meat on the bones for these guys. So I'm looking forward to these matchup running backs against our backup. The lineman wide receivers against our injured secondary. I think those are going to be fun matchups, maybe scary matchups, but a fun test for Bucks fans.

Jason Harwood:

right, Tampa, before we go, let's just listening to you. It's obviously, you know, your stuff, it just comes right off. You're not reading anything. You're just like ripping all this information off. So this is a really good question because I might run to draft Kings after I, after I asked you this question, any predictions about this game? Does it have to be the score? Does that have to be the outcome? It could be any prediction that you want about this game that you think you feel very comfortable with.

Tampa Tones:

Um, I guess I'll give one on each side of the ball here since, you know, I'm not one of those guys who I'm not going to knock the other team. I respect the Lions very much so. So two predictions, one from each side here. Number one could be an obvious one at this point in time. Maybe not to some people, but I find Mike Evans getting into the end zone again. You know, as much as vaunted as he is, I really think Liam Cohen is just smart enough some way, shape or form. Mike Evans is going to catch a touchdown pass. So he's 100 mark. Um, not negative, not crazy positive though. You know, you'll probably bet 10, win 10 back, something like that. But Mike Evans, I think it's touchdown straight continues this week. And that could be because, you know, the Bucks are playing from behind and needing to pass the ball, or that could be just because this game's a shootout in general, but whatever the case may be, I'm feeling very comfortable with that. Now on the line side of things. I think I'm going to say the same for you guys. I think you see a Monroe St. Brown get into the end zone this week as well. So I think that would be a fun parlay. The wide receivers balling out again, um, with the secondary banged up, I think Jared golf gets to have his fun out there. And I think Laporta will take away some of the attention. We'll take away some of the action. You're going to have Levante David on him. Yeah, sure. But you're also going to have inexperienced safeties in the football game, which may feed on a guy like LaPorta who's running some underneath routes. And the next thing you know, you have a Monroe St. Brown and one on one coverage making his way into the end zone against a guy who is not named Jamel Dean. I'm not going to give flack to any of my boys out there, but you know, there's just going to be vulnerabilities at these positions for the Bucs. I think Mike Evans is more hate. He's going to get the volume. If he gets five passes in the red zone, you're telling me Mike Evans just needs to come down with one of them for a touchdown. I find that very reasonable. And then again, if you're telling me a monitor St. Brown is likely to go up against backup cornerbacks and safeties, um, I find that hard to believe that he's not going to be finding his way into the end zone at least one time. Who knows if it's not more than that, but he's killed the Bucks in the past before, man. I remember last year, I forget what game it was. Like I said, both games are scary for Bucks fans, but a monitor St. Brown caught a past one game. And he, he broke like eight sets of ankles on this Buck's defense. And I was like, my goodness. And you know, that's when we were healthier last year. And we had Carlton Davis last year. And you know, we had Ryan Neal last year. Now, thank gosh, he's off the team, but we had more names last year. Now we're more banged up. A Monroe St. Brown career Buck killer. Yes. I'd put money on Mike Evans. I'd put money on a Monroe St. Brown making their ways into the end zone. That's for dang sure.

Jason Harwood:

All right. We'll see. I, I agree with you. Mike Evans is, you can have the best coverage ever and he's just, he's going to come down with the ball. He's just that dude, he's a hall of famer for you guys for sure when he's done and yeah, he's a nice player. When there was talk of him being up for grabs last year, Oh, Detroit fans were all about it. And yeah, he, yeah, he'd be nice to in the Honolulu blue for sure.

Tampa Tones:

Man, I think between Detroit, Kansas City, Houston, those were three teams that really, really, you know, you Carolina. Oh, we had a, no, you didn't. He was never going to go to Carolina. You know, this guy wants to win. And I think he proved that right. Look at how, like, if you look at some of these wide receiver contracts and I know we're cramped on time, so I'll make it quick, but you look around the league and some of these guys got paid bananas out there. Like You know, Mike Evans makes less money than a guy like Brandon. I, you know, and not to say I, you, it's not great, which he is a really good receiver, but Mike Evans makes almost 10 million less a year. And, um, it's pretty insane. And Oh, by the way, you didn't have to pigeon hole yourself into a five year deal, Mike Evans signed a two year contract. So it's not like you're going to get Julio Jones on grandpa legs out there. It's not like,

Jacob Litton:

Yeah.

Tampa Tones:

know, DeAndre Hopkins, nothing against him, but you could tell he's deescalating in his play right now. You're not going to get that with Mike Evans. So, um, you know, I, I find it very interesting there. And by the way, Kyle Brandt, very smart football brain. He was on NFL network today. He said, Hey, I have a hot take. Mike Evans is the best player in Buccaneers franchise history. Us Bucs fans say. That's really not that hot of a take. Uh, this guy's incredible. He's gonna wear that gold jacket one day Yes, we had greats like derrick brooks ward sap ronde barber, but offensively We've never had something like this and not only bucks fans But when he's gone one day the nfl will be like dang it. I miss watching mike evan on sunday.

Jacob Litton:

He's just been so consistent for so long.

Jason Harwood:

Yeah. With 10, 1000 yard seasons. Is that correct? You just know what you're going to get with him and yeah, he's definitely a red zone threat and all over, all over the field threat. So, all right, Tampa, before we take off here, tell the people where they can, get you on social media and your podcast and all that stuff.

Tampa Tones:

Yeah. Thanks again fellas This was awesome. I very much so look forward to talking with you guys anytime in the future. You need me just grab me And just twist my arm. No, you don't have to twist my arm. Just say, Hey, come on. And I'll be more than happy to talk to you fellows. But you can find me at Tampa tones, um, on Twitter X, Twitter X, whatever you want to call it. Um, Tampa, no space T O N E S tone. So that's where I'm at. The podcast is bucket tears. It's like buccaneers, but instead of the yen, you throw a little tea in there. So. Either one of those accounts, you could keep up with me. Follow me. As I said, we go live three times a week, Tuesday nights, Thursday nights, and Saturday mornings. Saturday is more of our football fun show. We start the first half of the show previewing. I can't wait to have you guys on. That'll be a very fun time, but. We spend the first half of that show previewing the game, and then the second half we get players, uh, coaches, sports writers, and we kind of just talk the world of football in general, college, NFL, gambling, fantasy, and all that stuff. So, um, yeah, any, any football fans out there? Come join us on Saturdays. Any Bucs fans out there? Come join us Tuesdays and Thursdays, but really, really find me an X and Twitter. I love to interact. I love to talk football. I love to talk any sport, baseball, basketball, hockey, wrestling, uh, cricket, lacrosse. No, I'm kidding. But anything you guys want to chirp about, I'm open. And again. Love this podcast. I can't wait to listen to you guys down the road. Really fun time. You guys are both awesome dudes. So really a special time here. And, uh, yeah, I'd love to be back in the future. It's incredible.

Jacob Litton:

Hey, maybe for a playoff matchup, right?

Tampa Tones:

Hey, we, it happened last year. Why not this year? You know,

Jacob Litton:

Right. Right.

Tampa Tones:

now if you guys beat us this Sunday, um, that means we're probably on pace, on pace to play for the playoffs. Cause that's how it happened last year. So.

Jacob Litton:

Yeah,

Tampa Tones:

You know, you guys are hoping for a win and then we'll get a rematch.

Jason Harwood:

Well, going

Tampa Tones:

what'll happen.

Jason Harwood:

we were both undefeated and, you know, we were, I think we were five and Oh, last year when we played in this year, we're still undefeated, just want to know, you know, we just, it was a little easier way at the beginning, but yeah. Um, yeah. Thank you for being on wealth of information. I mean, you just like increase the value of this podcast immensely with your knowledge. So I appreciate that Tampa and I will see you on Saturday. So that I'm looking forward to that. And hopefully you're nice with me with the questions. Uh, we'll, we'll see.

Tampa Tones:

Yeah.

Jacob Litton:

You better

Jason Harwood:

I'm going to have to.

Tampa Tones:

Hey, we'll be very nice, man. We love you guys already. Uh, we're going to welcome you on like family. That's for sure. So yeah, we, we just love talking ball, whatever it is, man. We're looking forward to it. It's going to be a fun time.

Jason Harwood:

right. Tampa tones on the bucket tears podcast. Catch them there. Catch them on YouTube. Thank you again, Tampa. I'll see you Saturday.

Tampa Tones:

Yep. You guys fellas have a great one. Thanks again.

Jason Harwood:

Welcome back. Hope you enjoyed that interview. Um, we're going to kick into the last bit of our podcast here. Jacob, after the interview with Tampa, what are your biggest questions for you coming into this game?

Jacob Litton:

The biggest question that I have is, how explosive is our offense going to be with these backup defensive backs on paper? It really looks like we are going to have a huge game on offense. With our offensive firepower, our passing game, the threat of Gibbs out of the backfield, catching passes, it really looks like we should have a huge game, I guess that, would you call it the biggest question? Or I guess the biggest storyline that I have is just, you know, are we going to be able to take advantage of the fact that they have a banged up secondary? They have a lot of rookies. You know, as Tampa said, they have undrafted free agents back there. know, it looks like a nightmare matchup for them.

Jason Harwood:

I don't even know if that's the biggest question. I was, um, interested in his thoughts about the running game because I was under the impression that Tampa had a pretty stout run defense. Sounds like they're banged up up front, which is just, they're in, they're in some trouble with, you know, we can attack them with a run or the pass. And if we could do either, they're going to be in some trouble. So, um, the biggest question that I personally have is, Watching last week's game with Tampa Baker Mayfield got out of trouble a lot in the backfield. So we're going to have to contain him. He likes to either bootleg out or he was just. All of a sudden it seemed like he was going to be tackled and he gets out and there's nothing more demoralizing than a quarterback escaping a sack and then getting a first down. So I, I don't want to see that. So that's my biggest question. Can we contain Baker Mayfield? Hopefully with DJ reader back, we get to push up the push up the middle. So he has nowhere to run. And then, uh, Aiden and whoever's on the other edge, whether it's Davenport or Houston or Pascoe, whoever's on the other side, Levi. They have to hold that edge so they can't let Baker escape out the back. To me, that's the way it needs to be happen.

Jacob Litton:

I think we're going to be able to mix up a lot more of these, uh, like linebacker and defensive back blitzes against this Tampa Bay team. We weren't able to do that against the Rams because they were just getting the ball out so quick. It just seemed like every time we tried, you know, there wasn't enough time to even really get home, even if you were unblocked.

Jason Harwood:

I agree. Um, stats to be aware of. So I did some film review. I looked up some stats and, found some mostly on the week one game. Some of these go back further. First I'm going to start with all offense. Last week, we talked a lot about, motion. There was motion on it. almost all the plays last week, Tampa only ran motion on 24 of 55 plays. So a little bit less, which, having the OC from McVay, I was expecting more motion, but there wasn't. Um, and also another interesting fact. Third, and then maybe this speaks to their offensive line. The youngest, they had three third and short plays of one or two yards. They passed on all of them did not run on third and short at all. Um, I thought that was, it was very interesting. So the lines had to be prepared for that, that, you know, they're just not going to try to run it until our, our defensive line that they're, they're willing to pass on that down. You talked about time to throw. Um, Last week, Baker's time to throw was actually 2. 36 seconds. That was his average Stafford's was 2. 72. So they got it out even quicker last week baker, has thrown for over 280 yards and at least two TDs in six of his last seven games. And that's probably why Tampa tones is very happy with him being their quarterback. He's produced and you know, he. One number division. So, and, and just in the playoff game, just last year, I know it's a different secondary, but it gets Alliance. He Baker lit them up for three 49 and three touchdowns. So he has produced as far as the defense, Todd Bowles loves to blitz. So Lions had to be prepared for that. He will blitz. I even noticed last week he blitzed on first down a lot. And so that was surprising to me to see that, that he was blitzing on first out just as much as third down. So the blitz can come anytime. It's not just on third and long or, you know, obvious passing down. Maybe they're going to try to blitz to get pressure to cover up for their, their secondary that, you know, it doesn't have very much experience.

Jacob Litton:

It'd be interesting if that's how they play that, though. Because of the, you know, lack of experience in the secondary, do you keep an extra lineman drop back in coverage, or do you try to send more people to try to create a quicker pass? Because we really can make them pay

Jason Harwood:

yeah, I think it's a pick your poison type thing. They're going to have to choose what they want to do and top bulls could be trying to do both things. So that keeps your golf guessing. If Jared golf has time back there. I have full confidence. He's going to be able to just pick these guys apart. He has too many weapons with an experience, but you know, a backend on Tampa. When you look at their stats, they were allowed four rushes of 10 plus yards last week. And you think, Oh, that's good. That's good for lines. Well, all of those were QB scrambles by Jane Daniels. I know golf ran for seven last week and that was, that might be like

Jacob Litton:

Yeah.

Jason Harwood:

than he gets the rest of the year combined and all the games that might be, so we'll, we'll see. But, you know, the rush defense of Tampa, the stats last week were very skewed, um, because Jay now scrambled a lot and he was their lead in Russia for the commanders. All right, Jacob, let's get to it. What are the keys? For victory here.

Jacob Litton:

On offense, my key to victory is gonna be, just the play of Jared Goff. He, did not have a very good game last week. Especially, as we've already talked about with, uh, you know, the backups in the secondary, the younger, inexperienced players. We have to be able to exploit them. We have to be able to get open golf has to be able to hit those guys, uh, you know, and take care of the ball. We have to just make good throws on the defensive side of the ball. I think the main key to victory there, you know, obviously it's going to be hard. You're not going to shut down Mike Evans. I think the key to victory here is going to be slowing down Godwin of the slot. Godwin last week was targeted eight times and he caught eight passes. A lot of them were shorter throws, quicker throws. We show that we can, stop some of the outside stuff, but we gave up way too many, short passes and ended up hurting us in the long run, I think that's my defensive key to victory is going to be paying more attention to Godwin in the slot and trying to slow down, uh, you know, his

Jason Harwood:

Yeah. Speaking of Godwin. So he was the security blanket for Baker. He had one drive where he caught three third down passes to give him first downs on just one drive. He's the blanket, coming out of the slot. He's going to be the guy that, they're going to be looking forward to, to get first downs. Godwin was the highest rated wide receiver last week and all of NFL by PFF grades. Take those with a grain of salt, but it's just, you know, it's enough to show you that he's a weapon and we, we need to watch, watch out for him. Most of my keys to victory are on the defensive side of the ball. I think the lion. You just talked about Jared golf needs to play his game. I think that the lions offense is going to just be able to pick how it wants to beat the Tampa Bay defense, just where they're inexperienced in injuries back there, where we want to prevent a shootout. So the first way we need to do that is keep Baker in the pocket. If you keep Baker in the pocket and don't allow him to scramble. I mean, yeah, he will make throws and beat you, but he's also going to make a mistake at some point. That's what we want to do. We want, you know, just keep them in the pocket and he'll eventually make, make a mistake. He had 10 pressures last week with the commanders. He was sacked once he scrambled three times for 21 yards. And then he went three for six for 48 yards in the other ones. So, you know, just keep him in the. Pocket and I think we're going to be fine. Um, and also just don't allow explosives. Keep everybody in front of you. I know that's a Dinkin Doug situation. You know, it's, it's demoralizing to have someone come down on you for 12 straight plays, but it's also hard for an offense to not make a mistake. Especially you got a young offensive line. Um, you know, one false start, one holding, that's a drive killer and that's what you're hoping for. So that's, That's what I'm looking for.

Jacob Litton:

especially when they have to come to Detroit with the noise and everything, it's harder to hear your snap counts.

Jason Harwood:

a lot of that noise is my son right next to me, right? In my ear, just So, you know,

Jacob Litton:

Yeah.

Jason Harwood:

you want to keep Baker and second and third long and, you know, hopefully he does, you know, Chuck's went in there and, you know, we sneak Derek Barnes in there again. When you just, and snares one and hopefully, Brian branch, if he gets his hands on one this time, uh, He takes it, you know, takes, takes advantage of it, and, we talked about CD's, uh, hands, but I'm sure he wants to get, an interception against his old team. Alright, let's get to our crit picks. First, let's review what we did in week one, each Jacob and I were each two and one. Um, I picked the Chiefs, which one we both picked the Eagles to beat the Packers. And then, you know, I mistakenly picked the Jets. So that's how I got left out. Yes, I did. I did. I did.

Jacob Litton:

went with the Jets over. And you know what? I was a toe away from being right about the Ravens game.

Jason Harwood:

Big toe. And it was the big toe. So let's get into week two. Uh, the games that we're going to be picking Thursday night football is Buffalo and Miami. Uh, the next one is Sunday night football, Chicago at Houston. And the last game would be Monday night football, Atlanta at Philly. I'm going to take Miami, even though Mozart and H. A. may not play, but I just feel that it's, it's in Miami. It'll be a good game. Those games are usually pretty good between those two teams, but I'm going to take Miami.

Jacob Litton:

For sure. Uh, yeah, the Bills are plus 2. 5 right now. Um, they're playing in Miami. Always a good game between them two. I think it's going to be a really entertaining Thursday night game. I also have the Dolphins

Jason Harwood:

All right. Well, J. J. will be happy with you. Sunday night football. Uh, how about you pick that? Chicago at Houston.

Jacob Litton:

so the Bears, uh, plus six have to come into Houston. Obviously, the Bears won last week because of their defense, uh, you know, really taking over the game. Their offense didn't really do much at all. I don't think that's going to fly this time. I've got Houston beating Chicago.

Jason Harwood:

Yeah, I think Houston comes rolling away. Uh, You say Chicago's defense. I'm going to say Will Levis just throwing the ball carelessly in the air with, I don't understand that,

Jacob Litton:

you

Jason Harwood:

you

Jacob Litton:

the clip of him like dropping to his knees and holding his head? Like he just couldn't believe just watching him run as that was a rookie mistake. That's something you can't make now. Now you're past that point.

Jason Harwood:

I'm thinking of Zach's, uh, prediction, you know, when we did the NFL podcast, they say, no, he did not. So, uh, God that I was so mad when I saw that. Cause I was like, oh, the bears are going to lose, but yeah, whatever.

Jacob Litton:

Yeah, right.

Jason Harwood:

right. So last game is Monday night football, Atlanta at Philly. Well, Philly came through for us lions fans last week, took care of the Packers, um, and that crappy field, uh, that was in Brazil last week. I think Philly's gonna wIn again. Philadelphia is a tough place to play. Atlanta really didn't look good. I know I predict them to do pretty well, but, uh, Kirk Cousins did not look good. Um, but I'm going to take Philly on this one.

Jacob Litton:

Uh, yeah, agreed. Atlanta is a plus 6. 5. They're coming into Philly. They still don't really have it together. It's gonna be a long season. Maybe, they need to turn some things around, clean some things up. Kirk Cousins seems to play a little bit better. You know, maybe it was a fluke. We'll find out. They have a pretty big test in week two. I definitely think that Philadelphia is gonna take care of business.

Jason Harwood:

I think so too.

Jacob Litton:

that Kirk Cousins didn't do too well, but you know who did play pretty well last week was Sam Darnold.

Jason Harwood:

Yeah, he did. But yeah, no,

Jacob Litton:

told you, I mean, we're still keeping track of that prediction.

Jason Harwood:

all right. That's fine.

Jacob Litton:

quite on pace for that but he didn't really have to.

Jason Harwood:

Okay, that's fine.

Jacob Litton:

I have to consider who he played,

Jason Harwood:

You feel good about yourself that you made, you got to point it out to everybody that you, you may have been right about something. Is that how you do this?

Jacob Litton:

week one, but I mean even if, you know, He had the capability. That was my point.

Jason Harwood:

Okay. Yeah. We're going to be tied after this week, uh, because we both, um, picked the same, uh, Three games, but I think those were, uh, I guess Buffalo and Miami could have went either way, but the other two, I think were fairly obvious picks.

Jacob Litton:

I agree.

Jason Harwood:

So, uh, let's get on to what we call the grit guarantee. All right, Jacob, for this section, you know, we just pick something about the game that we feel very confident about. I'm not going to be as ambitious this week. I'm going to say Amin Ra goes for over a hundred yards receiving in this one. I there's, they're not going to hold him back. And I think everyone in Detroit, Jared golf, including, uh, knows that we can't just let Amin Ra hang out with 16 yards receiving or 13 or 16, whatever he had last week, so, uh, no, he's going to have a good game. We talked about the inexperience, that Tampa Bay has, it's all setting up, for Amin Ra to have. a great game. what you got for your guarantee there, Jacob.

Jacob Litton:

You know, that actually was on the table for me as well. But it just feels like it's too, because of what happened last week and him needing to bounce back and, you know, the matchup that we talked about, I actually was going to lean towards, uh, the number of receptions that he was going to, you know, have

Jason Harwood:

Okay.

Jacob Litton:

Um, but actually, so my guarantee of the week is that, uh, you know, I think Tampa called him Stonehands is, uh, Carlton Davis. I think he's going to get an interception this week.

Jason Harwood:

All right. Wow. You're going to Colorado.

Jacob Litton:

He, he had a couple that were kind of close last week. Didn't get it done. You know, he's got the extra added incentive, obviously, of who he's playing. I think he's going to get a pick.

Jason Harwood:

Yeah. I hope so.

Jacob Litton:

it's a Maybe it's a crucial one.

Jason Harwood:

I, it really, well, I mean, it depends on when the interception comes in, but the stadium gets extra loud when there's a turnover. And especially if it's in our interception and they, you know, start going the other way. I, I really, I hope you're right on that. Cause that'll be fun at the stadium to experience that.

Jacob Litton:

Right.

Jason Harwood:

So I'm feeling good about the Lions, you know, one, Oh, it was a tough game last week. I'm heading in love to be two and Oh, against, two possible playoff teams. That would be, that'd be great. head to our first row game next week, uh, with Arizona. So feeling good. I'm, I think Jared's going to have a better game this week.

Jacob Litton:

I hope so. hard to be too much worse.

Jason Harwood:

well, yeah, he had, you know, he had the interception and then he had one that was, that was dropped to, um,

Jacob Litton:

would have been a game

Jason Harwood:

Oh, that would have been that, uh, that would have been hurt, but that, that.

Jacob Litton:

one of Manra had to smack down, which he kind of fell.

Jason Harwood:

Yeah, I well, that wasn't Jared. I think I'm in Iraq just catches that and screams across the middle. Has he not slipped on that field? So it'd be interesting to see the field conditions to like, just not the conditions, but whether they they're, you know.

Jacob Litton:

it any

Jason Harwood:

if, if

Jacob Litton:

slipping?

Jason Harwood:

So hopefully they're on it. I'm sure Dan Campbell's on it. So we're, we're, we're in good standards there. So, all right, Jacob, anything else, or are we, we going to head out here? All right.

Jacob Litton:

we're good

Jason Harwood:

All right. Well, for Jacob, I'm Jason. We want to thank Tampa tones for, uh, sharing his knowledge with us. Um, I hope we hear from him in the future. So he's, he was a great guest. So, uh, all right. Got one thing left to say, man, and it's go lions.

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